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Curious as to the afterlife as the only time I get that fluffy warm feeling in my gut these days is when I think about going there.feels like I'm staying alive for other peoples amusement .if im not happy then I dnt see why it's selfish
 
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Curious as to the afterlife as the only time I get that fluffy warm feeling in my gut these days is when I think about going there.feels like I'm staying alive for other peoples amusement .if im not happy then I dnt see why it's selfish
Because from a Soul perspective it's usually a lot of failure to do that, & you have to come back & try it all again. We're hear to learn lessons & go through stuff. & if you don't do what you came here to do then it's back to the 'drawing board'. Ultimately it isn't such a big deal, but the way I see it; come what may, if I can get through it all; that in itself is a success - however much I sometimes want to be dead. & you don't know if things will turn around & you'll have a wonderful life - that happens sometimes for people.

If your serious about the area then why not look into what research & investigations have been done on it all? I did & got something from it -

I read all this -

[not an exhaustive list]
Ian Lawton - The big book of the Soul, & the Wisdom of the Soul. (& others by the same author).
Michael Newton - Journey of Souls, Destiny of Souls & Memories of the Afterlife.
Richard Martini - Flipside.
Andy Tomlinson - Exploring the Eternal Soul. (& others)
Dolores Cannon - The Convoluted Universe series & Three Waves of Volunteers & the New Earth.
Robert Schwartz - Your Souls Plan, & Your Souls Gift.
Brenda Davies - Journey of the Soul.
Also the work of Brain Weiss, Kulber Ross, Joshua David Stone, & Patrick Harpur (A Complete Guide to the Soul).

Why not postpone your Journey to the other side to do some reading & investigation into some perspectives on it all? What have you got to lose?

Just a suggestion - take it or leave it.
 
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A well structured answer indeed.all the coming back and doing it again ,isn't that karma someone else said that to me also .did you find all these readings helpful?ultimately it's a strange subject as obvious Knowone knows there's always the rot in the ground option for example
 
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im not a believer im afraid. i believe when your gone thats it.
i do however feel a huge guilty feeling for my family left behind. the pain and grief and suffering that ending my life would cause them. im not saying i wont get ill again and not try it again but i cling onto that guilt feeling as a safety mechanism.
i would like to buy into re-incarnation and become a tree or a cat but im not sure it works like that.
 
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A well structured answer indeed.all the coming back and doing it again ,isn't that karma someone else said that to me also .did you find all these readings helpful?ultimately it's a strange subject as obvious Knowone knows there's always the rot in the ground option for example
Fact is that no body really knows anything. Everything is a guess, it's just that a lot of people generally agree upon a lot of common guesses, whether they are right or wrong. On one level of reality your body will be dead & it will rot in the ground. As for all the other viewpoints about all the other levels of our Being, & I have looked at many of them, what can be categorically stated? In actual fact probably not much; it depends on what level of evidence your looking for? Your not going to get an answer from the perspectives of 'scientific' materialism - because it is an area that is outside of it's remit.

After reading the above books, especially the work of Michael Newton, Ian Lawton & Andy Tomlinson - I do feel that there is something in it all that cannot be easily explained away.

However - after considering all these other perspectives - we still have to live with things at the level of this reality, regardless of the realities of the Spirit Realms.

I would say though that I have found it personally helpful in reading it all. In part to continue to get rid of Christian (& other religious) programming & conditioning, & also that it has given some context of meaning to things, & a possible area of exploration (through certain potential approaches).

http://www.spiritualregression.org/page.php?slug=the-spiritual-world
 
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i would like to buy into re-incarnation and become a tree or a cat but im not sure it works like that.
From the perspectives of the past life/inter life research/body of work. Once on the human incarnational path, it's considered that we don't switch species. Theories on amount on incarnations vary. A reasonable agreed upon estimate appears to be around 2,000 incarnations - but it may be many more? & it may vary a lot with individuals. There is however cases in the literature of having been on other planets & having lived as other intelligent life forms, such as on a water World as highly intelligent sea creatures & as intelligent flying creatures. When looked into the area is very expansive. Just from the point of view of an interesting read, even you don't think any of it is true - it is very interesting.

But none of it really matters, & the focus is 'this' life anyway. It's either a part of Reality & what happens to us or it isn't. If it is; then it's not based on faith of any kind - it's just the way things are.

If your an immortal soul playing an incarnational game - then that is what you are, thinking that your not, or really doing anything, won't make any difference to it.
 
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I have no idea. Sometimes I fear death, and sometimes I do not mind.

Do you know this: We came into existence. What we before we were a baby? I do not know. This is the way of life, plants, animals, humans - we live and then we die.

Death is perfectly natural. I imagine if part of us survives after death, it will be interesting.

I think death scares us, when we play god, or when we have a large ego.

I am still confused about life, lets wait till we are dead to contemplate death!
 
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I wouldn't say ending your own life is selfish, though I know plenty of people who would say it is. Those people, however, haven't had any mental health problems.

I believe there's life after death. Why, I'm not sure, though imagine it's a comfort thing for me, as a lot of my family have died, along with a couple of close friends. I'm not scared of death, whatever it brings.
 
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Live or die is one of the few choices we have,i dnt understand anything else at present
 
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People say you can accomplish anything you put your mind to ,Ive never been much of an achiever in the past but id love that comment to be true :(
 
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