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Without Intrusive Thoughts, I Literally Don't Know What To Think!!! What To Do?

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NorasDad

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#1
Hi All,

First, I want to thank everyone on this forum. It has totally saved me. I've been in the dark about my OCD for over 40 years - basically as long as I can remember.

I recently saw an excellent video about rumination. I'll post it later today.

Essentially, I didn't know there was another way to think. I felt compelled to ruminate about EVERYTHING.

So now that I've seen through that compulsion, my mind is clearer than it's ever been. However, it also seems empty. I don't know why to do things without rumination. Basically I have only acted on intrusive thoughts for decades. Until I think something that causes me to worry and ruminate, I ignore my thoughts. A rumination will be along so soon that there's no point. The OCD was in charge completely.

So now I'm completely at a loss. Nothing seems important because for me "important" has always meant something that I ruminate intensely about. People have never understood that whatever I was making a priority at that moment had been SCREAMING at me for hours (or would soon).

So now what? I mean I feel better, but I'm very confused.

Thoughts?
 
Cpt_Stunning

Cpt_Stunning

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#2
Your subconscious mind has been dominating your conscious mind for all these decades, & that's exactly what anxiety is, it makes you think that OCD is appropriate when you know consciously that it isn't, & when you don't act on the obsessive behaviour, your subconscious mind will scream at you until you do.

& that's why anxiety and OCD can be overcome, when the realisation sets in that your subconsious mind cannot actually force you to act in the way you do, the screaming will eventually subside & one day go away completely, & then your mind will be empty, & that's the cure.

So, it seems to me that you are cured, & it will be confusing, it will take a while to get used to it, but then you can realise your full potential without anxiety.
 
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NorasDad

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Your subconscious mind has been dominating your conscious mind for all these decades, & that's exactly what anxiety is, it makes you think that OCD is appropriate when you know consciously that it isn't, & when you don't act on the obsessive behaviour, your subconscious mind will scream at you until you do.

& that's why anxiety and OCD can be overcome, when the realisation sets in that your subconsious mind cannot actually force you to act in the way you do, the screaming will eventually subside & one day go away completely, & then your mind will be empty, & that's the cure.

So, it seems to me that you are cured, & it will be confusing, it will take a while to get used to it, but then you can realise your full potential without anxiety.

Ok, so do you think it's ok for my mind to feel sort of "empty" for a while?

Is the idea that rational thoughts will start seeming more important to me over time?
 
Cpt_Stunning

Cpt_Stunning

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I'm no expert on anxiety, but I do know that's it's possible your mind will be empty for good, there's something called 'rebound anxiety', where your subconscious mind won't admit that it's been defeated and will try to dominate you again, but that should only be intermittent & last a year or 2 at the most.

Ironically, people who have overcome anxiety can experience better lives than one in which they never even suffered in the first place. Rational & relaxing behaviour takes a whole new meaning, when people are so used to it, they get stuck in a rut in life, & just carry on with the same routine until they die, but people who aren't used to it for years, the new experience of rational & relaxing behaviour can open up a new world to them.
 
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NorasDad

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I'm no expert on anxiety, but I do know that's it's possible your mind will be empty for good, there's something called 'rebound anxiety', where your subconscious mind won't admit that it's been defeated and will try to dominate you again, but that should only be intermittent & last a year or 2 at the most.

Ironically, people who have overcome anxiety can experience better lives than one in which they never even suffered in the first place. Rational & relaxing behaviour takes a whole new meaning, when people are so used to it, they get stuck in a rut in life, & just carry on with the same routine until they die, but people who aren't used to it for years, the new experience of rational & relaxing behaviour can open up a new world to them.
Wow, you know just what to say to an old lunatic. :)

I can't thank you enough. That really made me feel better.
 
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Skynet

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Hi All,

First, I want to thank everyone on this forum. It has totally saved me. I've been in the dark about my OCD for over 40 years - basically as long as I can remember.

I recently saw an excellent video about rumination. I'll post it later today.

Essentially, I didn't know there was another way to think. I felt compelled to ruminate about EVERYTHING.

So now that I've seen through that compulsion, my mind is clearer than it's ever been. However, it also seems empty. I don't know why to do things without rumination. Basically I have only acted on intrusive thoughts for decades. Until I think something that causes me to worry and ruminate, I ignore my thoughts. A rumination will be along so soon that there's no point. The OCD was in charge completely.

So now I'm completely at a loss. Nothing seems important because for me "important" has always meant something that I ruminate intensely about. People have never understood that whatever I was making a priority at that moment had been SCREAMING at me for hours (or would soon).

So now what? I mean I feel better, but I'm very confused.

Thoughts?
Your mind is supposed to be clear; some people spend years meditating trying to reach that goal. Now that you're not constantly interrupted by intrusive thoughts, you're probably more productive; see if you can put that to good use at home and at work.
 
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NorasDad

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Your mind is supposed to be clear; some people spend years meditating trying to reach that goal. Now that you're not constantly interrupted by intrusive thoughts, you're probably more productive; see if you can put that to good use at home and at work.
Yeah, but how am I going to work if I don't ruminate about what I'm supposed to do and analyze the theoretically best way it should be done and what compromises I can make to that process without harming the quality of the final product?

:cool:

God, I wish I was kidding.
 
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Patricialynn7

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#8
Hi All,

First, I want to thank everyone on this forum. It has totally saved me. I've been in the dark about my OCD for over 40 years - basically as long as I can remember.

I recently saw an excellent video about rumination. I'll post it later today.

Essentially, I didn't know there was another way to think. I felt compelled to ruminate about EVERYTHING.

So now that I've seen through that compulsion, my mind is clearer than it's ever been. However, it also seems empty. I don't know why to do things without rumination. Basically I have only acted on intrusive thoughts for decades. Until I think something that causes me to worry and ruminate, I ignore my thoughts. A rumination will be along so soon that there's no point. The OCD was in charge completely.

So now I'm completely at a loss. Nothing seems important because for me "important" has always meant something that I ruminate intensely about. People have never understood that whatever I was making a priority at that moment had been SCREAMING at me for hours (or would soon).

So now what? I mean I feel better, but I'm very confused.

Thoughts?
What you said reminded me of Mental Health professionals I worked with, who were very nice, but what was happening is everything I said was “OCD and I don’t answer that.” And I remember just staying quiet and not speaking.
 
Hopeful313

Hopeful313

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#9
Hi @NorasDad

You were held as a hostage by your OCD. Now, you are free with no boundaries. Let your mind be where it feels comfortable and relaxing. Find things to occupy the emptiness that was left behind with activities, hobbies, fun time with your family and friends, reading and so on.

After my fight with intrusive thoughts and thank god they are almost gone, I had the same feeling as you the first week I noticed improvements. During that time and still now, I am catching up with friends and family that I couldn’t talk to before. I started going out. I got back in my home studio that I couldn’t enter since October of last year year. I am finishing projects and sessions that have been abandoned due to my depression and anxiety.

I feel alive again.
I also want to thank you and everyone else that helped me come through and cleared the confusion that I faced during the healing process.
 
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NorasDad

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Patricialyn, I hear you. I prided myself on being a 70's therapy culture guy who could admit anything. Did I ever talk to anybody about what my day was like? Ever? Not a chance.

That's really why I wrote this thread and thank you so much for responding.

Hopeful, once again you show me what this forum is all about. I've benefitted so much. Thank you.
 
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Shapeshift

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#12
Your subconscious mind has been dominating your conscious mind for all these decades, & that's exactly what anxiety is, it makes you think that OCD is appropriate when you know consciously that it isn't, & when you don't act on the obsessive behaviour, your subconscious mind will scream at you until you do.

& that's why anxiety and OCD can be overcome, when the realisation sets in that your subconsious mind cannot actually force you to act in the way you do, the screaming will eventually subside & one day go away completely, & then your mind will be empty, & that's the cure.

So, it seems to me that you are cured, & it will be confusing, it will take a while to get used to it, but then you can realise your full potential without anxiety.
This post exactly sums up my situation. Thank you for posting it.