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What medication is the most effective to sedate/relax you??

What medication besides benzos is best to make you stoned/sedated??

  • SSRI ( Prozac,Zoloft,Citalopram)

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  • Non Benzos ( Eszopiclone,etc)

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  • Beta blockers(Propanolol,etc)

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  • MAOIS (Nardil,etc)

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  • SNRIS(Effexor,etc)

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  • Anti Psychotics(Seroquel,Abilify,Risperdal)

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  • Antidepressents(Amitriptyline,Wellbutrin,Buspar,et c)

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  • Benzos ( Diazepam,Xanax,etc)

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  • Anti Convulsants ( Lyrica,etc)

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  • Other (Please name which one)

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Sociallyackward

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So most of the doctors around here( I live in Manchester in the UK) & even my psychiatrist is either refusing to prescribe benzos or refusing to increase my dose ( I'm prescribed 5mg of diazepam twice a day only!). So besides benzos which medication ( excluding drugs like opiates/cannabis/cocaine,etc) makes you the most sedated/stoned & high?? I'll describe how I feel everyday well most days: I'm restless, on edge, agitated, nervous(I'm a nervous wreck), anxious, mentally/emotionally unstable, uptight,socially awkward. I suffer from social anxiety,insomnia ( can't sleep at all),GAD & severe depression. So I need a medication to relax muscles(muscle relaxer),to make me feel calm,relaxed,to help me loosen up & to sedate me. Which medication is the best/most effective besides benzos?? Thanks
 
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Not exactly a Benzophenone but I find Procyclidine really helps with my restlessness / Akathisia and makes everything seem so much brighter, not in the sense happy brighter but colour combinations like patterns on my bedroom wallpaper stand out more, It's classed as a stimulant but relaxes me to the point where I can watch a film all the way through instead of 20 minutes like I used too.
 
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fidget

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So most of the doctors around here( I live in Manchester in the UK) & even my psychiatrist is either refusing to prescribe benzos or refusing to increase my dose ( I'm prescribed 5mg of diazepam twice a day only!). So besides benzos which medication ( excluding drugs like opiates/cannabis/cocaine,etc) makes you the most sedated/stoned & high?? I'll describe how I feel everyday well most days: I'm restless, on edge, agitated, nervous(I'm a nervous wreck), anxious, mentally/emotionally unstable, uptight,socially awkward. I suffer from social anxiety,insomnia ( can't sleep at all),GAD & severe depression. So I need a medication to relax muscles(muscle relaxer),to make me feel calm,relaxed,to help me loosen up & to sedate me. Which medication is the best/most effective besides benzos?? Thanks
tbh it's unusual these days for doctors to prescribe daily benzos so they are being more generous with you than you think! They tend to be kept for PRN and prescribed sparingly cause they are so addictive. Personally if i were you i would seek out some therapy to address your anxiety. Otherwise i think the standard treatment for anxiety is low dose SSRIs. Good luck
 
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katiesm.ith

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I have quetiapine, it's an antipsychotic and it absolutely knocks me out. I'm from Manchester too!
 
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Pollypop

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Hi. I'm just a few miles from Manchester too. My GP will only give me 18 5mg" diazepam
and 10 10mg temazepam per month.
I've also had, a few different antidepressants.
The one that "knocked me out" most was Mirtazapine (Zispin) an SSRI

The GP said I could occasionally use "Nytol"
This contains Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride which is is commonly found
in antihistamines.
Some contain a different medication so be careful if you get any.

Hope you manage to find something that reduces your symptoms. x
 
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BorderlineDownunder

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So most of the doctors around here( I live in Manchester in the UK) & even my psychiatrist is either refusing to prescribe benzos or refusing to increase my dose ( I'm prescribed 5mg of diazepam twice a day only!). So besides benzos which medication ( excluding drugs like opiates/cannabis/cocaine,etc) makes you the most sedated/stoned & high?? I'll describe how I feel everyday well most days: I'm restless, on edge, agitated, nervous(I'm a nervous wreck), anxious, mentally/emotionally unstable, uptight,socially awkward. I suffer from social anxiety,insomnia ( can't sleep at all),GAD & severe depression. So I need a medication to relax muscles(muscle relaxer),to make me feel calm,relaxed,to help me loosen up & to sedate me. Which medication is the best/most effective besides benzos?? Thanks
you are a perfect candidate for replacing life ruining benzos with life saving medical cannabis.

shame Big Pharma disagrees. :(
 
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The Duellist

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1. Your doctor cannot help you. It's up to you to help yourself.

2. Doctors don't exist to help you. They exist to make a living, except for those working exclusively for charitable organizations such as "Medecins Sans Frontieres", etc.

3. You're asking the wrong question. You're asking the question that your doctor wants to be asked.

4. The question you should be asking is not what medication is the most effective to sedate/relax you. That question is foolish and is exactly what your doctor wants to hear. You should be asking the question, " What medication kills anxiety , and yet is not a CNS depressant such as , benzos, booze, opiates, blah, blah blah, but rather improves memory and cognitive function. The addictive potential of the substances aforementioned in this thread is problematic. However, this fact is irrelevant, consideting the drugs and narcotics mentioned will absolutely kill your anxiety, but I wouldn't operate heavy machinery under their influence or take an exam which requiring mental agility. Zombies operate with non existent anxiety levels among the living, yet they're still the living dead. Life as zombie is a waste of a life because you can't experience many of the joys of life as other neurotypicals.

5. The majority of doctors have a God complex and we feed that complex. In reality the majority of MD's, GP's and even specialists are simply individuals with a strong work ethic. The vast majority are of average IQ. Haven't you ever observed the servile behavior of most patients with these people. You must learn to speak with these pricks. They are service employees and you must learn to ask for what you need , not let them prescribe big pharmas fucking medicine of the month. If they refuse, then quickly move on to the next dodo.

The drugs with the pharmacodynamics you're looking for exist. However , they exist outside the sphere of influence of the US and Uk.

Research the profiles I described on the Internet. Use your doctor for a prescription, a check up and nothing else. If possible find a pharmacist, or a fucking pharmacy researcher. These are the guys that know what they're talking about. You think MD's and GP are working in research labs to develop these pharmacos.....Hell no! Your GP isn't a scientist....he's a fucking service worker and don't forget it.

You haven't exhausted all the possibilities. All you've done is talk to your doctor, which means you haven't really done any work. Thankfully you've come to realize that the people you've been dealing with are useless. If and when you do not get the results that you're looking for.....move on. Dating advice is wise advice for dealing with doctors . Fuck giving them a chance. If you don't get the results you require......leave the incompetent fuck.

6. I've toned this post down immensely in an attempt to avoid being triggering. However, realize that this is your life. Do you want to spend a lifetime in the hands of this overpriced and incompetent mechanic?

7. Good luck to you .
 
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Sociallyackward

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I have quetiapine, it's an antipsychotic and it absolutely knocks me out. I'm from Manchester too!
It's funny I've just been prescribed Quetiapine(Seroquel) too. At what dose does it "knock you out"?? I've been told by some friends that the lower doses (25-50mg) are more sedating than the higher doses(300-400mg) is this true??
 
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Sociallyackward

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Hi. I'm just a few miles from Manchester too. My GP will only give me 18 5mg" diazepam
and 10 10mg temazepam per month.
I've also had, a few different antidepressants.
The one that "knocked me out" most was Mirtazapine (Zispin) an SSRI



The GP said I could occasionally use "Nytol"
This contains Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride which is is commonly found
in antihistamines.
Some contain a different medication so be careful if you get any.

Hope you manage to find something that reduces your symptoms. x
Thanks. I'm on Mirtazapine too the trade name is Remeron though not Zispin?? When I started takin it on it's own it would sedate me but now after 2 years it doesnt. I've been on 15mg,30mg & 45mg but the only time it works is when I combined it with Xanax & Prazepam(Which is a French benzo non available in the UK unfortunately). I'm sure if I took Mirtazapine with 20mg+ of Diazepam it would "knock me out. I'd be stoned.
On another note I only felt that it was the doctors in Manchester that didnt prescribe benzos but since you live in Derbyshire then it's the same everywhere in the Uk?? I feel that GP's in London would accept to prescribe benzos at higher doses.
 
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Hi. Remeron and zispin are both names for mirtazapine.
I hadn't realised this. Thanks.

When on mirtazapine, after a while I was also on citolapram with it.
However, as I am over age 60 the doses have to be reduced.
Some to half strength.
Consequently they stopped working.

To me, this seems absolutely ridiculous.

I wish there was a way we could choose.
Sign papers etc to say we will take responsibility for the higher dose
even though our GP has explained risks etc.

Obviously I am now back to suffering major depression and other
mental health problems.

Changing meds was also useless as I couldn't have a suitable dose.
It's so frustrating.

It was the psychiatrist who did this.
Wishing you all well x
 
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