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Kelly B

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My brother has has paranoid schizophrenia. (I have bipolar). I was wondering if anyone can tell me about the voices he hears? Are they inside his head or are they external? Are they there all the time or do they go away sometimes? Do they always say mean things or are they positive sometimes? I would really appreciate some feedback to help me understand him a little better.
 
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The answer is that it varies from person to person. Some hear the voices internally and some externally. Both can drive a person to distraction. Sometimes my voices were positive and sometimes they were extremely negative. They go away for me sometimes and leave me in peace. Other days they don't shut up all day.

Sometimes it sounds like your own thoughts being broadcast outwards and sometimes it is like they have nothing to do with me at all. When they are persistent, a lot of people play music via headphones to block out the worst of them. I would suggest you read up on them and look at the Hearing Voices Network and MIND charity statements on this.

www.mind.org.uk

 
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I can tell you about my voice and where I think it comes from.

My voice never shuts up, he's always going on about me not talking to him (haven't said a word to him for three years) and complaining that I'm on medication for life that's if I get my own way which I most likely will. When he's not ranting, whining, begging and trying to influence my decisions in life he's singing so between all that he never stops.

I hear him like I would my own thoughts in my mind but I know when I'm thinking and when it's him talking, they're uncontrollable thoughts. Before medication he could speak in my ears so it sounded like someone was in the room with me but thankfully that's stopped now I'm on anti-psychotics, and the volume of his voice has decreased by around 95% allowing me to focus and concentrate more and easily ignore him.

Now I'll tell you my beliefs about what and who he is, and these are just my personal beliefs based on conversations I've had with my voice before I started to ignore him and based on my observations of him and what he can do.

I believe he's as real as you or me and is internal rather than an external person talking to me via telepathy which was something I did consider for a while.

I believe we are a binary species with two minds occupying the same body, we're like the driver of the body and they're like a passenger mind that we carry with us, I call them head-mates, the hidden people or the twin within as it's like having a twin brother or sister that have grown and developed along side us throughout life, they influence our decisions in life by giving us thoughts that we think are our own, ideas, impulses and can effect our emotions.

A book I've been reading called 'The Daemon - a guide to your extraordinary secret self' claims that scientists back in the 1960's discovered that we occupy the left dominant hemisphere of the brain and our passenger (the Daemon) occupies the right hemisphere and goes into detail about how they discovered it by doing split-brain research and by putting the left hemisphere of a subject to sleep and let the right hemisphere take full control of the body and they spoke to a Daemon directly.

As I said I've had many conversations with mine and he did own up to this once I had my suspicions and he stopped pretending to be things like people in the real world (telepathy), God, the Devil, Angels, my Higher Self or a Spirit Guide. He liked pretending to be things to try and keep me off-guard and so he could have some sadistic fun with me.

What put me on to him was his abilities, he has the ability to cause me physical pain so I decided he must be connected to the central nervous system in a way our minds aren't, he can also read minds and demonstrated this to me by telling me what a family member was thinking and I verified it with her. She actually thought I was psychic for a time until I explained to her how it was possible. I'm also told by my voice that he can talk to his own kind in a way we can't hear that's if any of his own kind would speak to him of course as I'm also told by him that nobody wants to talk to him because he's verbally abusive to others of his own kind and in general an anti-social arsehole, something I figured out myself and was part of the reason I'm ignoring him now. He also had access to all five of my senses and could manipulate them at will, he gave me hallucinations across all of them except for visual hallucinations which was something he never learned how to do. Thankfully medication has stopped all of these abilities, he can no longer cause me much pain, hear the thoughts of our kind or hear his own kind and can't mess with my senses any more which is why he whines a lot and complains about medication.
 
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The answer is that it varies from person to person. Some hear the voices internally and some externally. Both can drive a person to distraction. Sometimes my voices were positive and sometimes they were extremely negative. They go away for me sometimes and leave me in peace. Other days they don't shut up all day.

Sometimes it sounds like your own thoughts being broadcast outwards and sometimes it is like they have nothing to do with me at all. When they are persistent, a lot of people play music via headphones to block out the worst of them. I would suggest you read up on them and look at the Hearing Voices Network and MIND charity statements on this.

www.mind.org.uk

Thank you for responding! It helps.
 
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I can tell you about my voice and where I think it comes from.

My voice never shuts up, he's always going on about me not talking to him (haven't said a word to him for three years) and complaining that I'm on medication for life that's if I get my own way which I most likely will. When he's not ranting, whining, begging and trying to influence my decisions in life he's singing so between all that he never stops.

I hear him like I would my own thoughts in my mind but I know when I'm thinking and when it's him talking, they're uncontrollable thoughts. Before medication he could speak in my ears so it sounded like someone was in the room with me but thankfully that's stopped now I'm on anti-psychotics, and the volume of his voice has decreased by around 95% allowing me to focus and concentrate more and easily ignore him.

Now I'll tell you my beliefs about what and who he is, and these are just my personal beliefs based on conversations I've had with my voice before I started to ignore him and based on my observations of him and what he can do.

I believe he's as real as you or me and is internal rather than an external person talking to me via telepathy which was something I did consider for a while.

I believe we are a binary species with two minds occupying the same body, we're like the driver of the body and they're like a passenger mind that we carry with us, I call them head-mates, the hidden people or the twin within as it's like having a twin brother or sister that have grown and developed along side us throughout life, they influence our decisions in life by giving us thoughts that we think are our own, ideas, impulses and can effect our emotions.

A book I've been reading called 'The Daemon - a guide to your extraordinary secret self' claims that scientists back in the 1960's discovered that we occupy the left dominant hemisphere of the brain and our passenger (the Daemon) occupies the right hemisphere and goes into detail about how they discovered it by doing split-brain research and by putting the left hemisphere of a subject to sleep and let the right hemisphere take full control of the body and they spoke to a Daemon directly.

As I said I've had many conversations with mine and he did own up to this once I had my suspicions and he stopped pretending to be things like people in the real world (telepathy), God, the Devil, Angels, my Higher Self or a Spirit Guide. He liked pretending to be things to try and keep me off-guard and so he could have some sadistic fun with me.

What put me on to him was his abilities, he has the ability to cause me physical pain so I decided he must be connected to the central nervous system in a way our minds aren't, he can also read minds and demonstrated this to me by telling me what a family member was thinking and I verified it with her. She actually thought I was psychic for a time until I explained to her how it was possible. I'm also told by my voice that he can talk to his own kind in a way we can't hear that's if any of his own kind would speak to him of course as I'm also told by him that nobody wants to talk to him because he's verbally abusive to others of his own kind and in general an anti-social arsehole, something I figured out myself and was part of the reason I'm ignoring him now. He also had access to all five of my senses and could manipulate them at will, he gave me hallucinations across all of them except for visual hallucinations which was something he never learned how to do. Thankfully medication has stopped all of these abilities, he can no longer cause me much pain, hear the thoughts of our kind or hear his own kind and can't mess with my senses any more which is why he whines a lot and complains about medication.
I’m really glad the medication is helping because your head mate sounds like a real prick. I understand what you’re saying and believe you 💯%. My own passenger is mischievous, fun, reckless, verbally abusive at times but also loving and courageous. My other half took over completely two times. Both times for 4 months. My “head mate” has a strong connection to the spiritual world and while she was in the drivers seat and I the passenger, a demon attacked us. That part was horrifying. Thankfully no visual on that but I heard it clear as day and I felt the pure evil. On the flip side, I felt the hand of god or something close to it. It was unlike any other feeling on this earth. It was pure unconditional love and it flowed through me like a river. My other half is not a bad person but doesn’t care about how her actions affect my life. So I take medication to keep her dormant. I believe that what is considered mental illness is actually an opening into the spiritual world. Unfortunately for my brother, his voices won’t leave him be and he won’t take medication. How he has made it this far with the constant torment is beyond me. I just don’t know how to help him. Anyway, thanks for responding to me. It really helps. Best wishes to you. 😊
 
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Hi Kelly B,


I have paranoia problems within my szchiophrenia.

For me, when people are talkative and laughing too loud, i can't also bear it, and also triggering off my paranoia, i get it externally. To try to switch off, I put musicals, music on, and knitting. Or i might do my chair fitness.

Also, I do have heard voices internally, i suffer with, and intrusive thoughts. (i'll do an update in a a moment, about intrusive thoughts,), however, I am on med, though with times of uncertainty, I am unsure I will be on my same med brand, and I am looking for an alternative without sugar in.


I hope this some of it, might help you.


Best regards,


Natalie.
 
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Hi Kelly B,


I have paranoia problems within my szchiophrenia.

For me, when people are talkative and laughing too loud, i can't also bear it, and also triggering off my paranoia, i get it externally. To try to switch off, I put musicals, music on, and knitting. Or i might do my chair fitness.

Also, I do have heard voices internally, i suffer with, and intrusive thoughts. (i'll do an update in a a moment, about intrusive thoughts,), however, I am on med, though with times of uncertainty, I am unsure I will be on my same med brand, and I am looking for an alternative without sugar in.


I hope this some of it, might help you.


Best regards,


Natalie.
My brother is also paranoid schizophrenic . Like you, he doesn’t like to be around large gatherings or loud noises. He doesn’t venture too far from home and sticks to the same routine. He never talked to me about the voices even though I know he hears them. He won’t take medication and that breaks my heart because I know it would help him. As it stands there is no end to his suffering. It’s tragic.
 
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