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HedgeCobra

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Hi there,

I'm new to the forum, I'm looking to gain some knowledge about my condition and share my experiences with others.

The main thing that has literally been on my mind for a long time now is the hearing voices thing. I had a psychotic episode around 15 years ago, never heard voices. However 5 years ago I had a relapse, was hospitalised for 9 months. With the diagnosis of schizoaffective disorder. I remember I started hearing weird noise outside my brain that weren't there. For example sat in the hospital cafe I could hear very distinct mumbling and uttering of the same sentences over and over....

Ever since I have a constant chatter of utter crap coming from outside my mind but then relative to what I'm thinking. Its not necessarily true though as the chatter sounds like it's very random and not thought up by me. And it also sounds as if there's at least a couple of "people" talking amongst themselves...

What I'm getting at is, I just don't know whether I'm indeed hearing voices, I can understand some of the things I am hearing but they talk so quickly I can't understand sometimes. They constantly repeat a lot. I question them in my mind and they sometimes answer. They drive me nuts, like when I'm counting, they count with me and count the wrong number lol.
And sometimes they remind me to do things.
I can also think using my own inner voices but these are seperate to it.
I also find when I am lay down ready to sleep I have no control over what I'm thinking about, instead this chatter creates what to think about, which generally is a load of crap.

So, I hope anyone could shed some light on this. Tell me I'm hearing voices. Or just to say I'm developing some X Men style telepathic mutant powers 😂...... As I just want to be able to say to someone, yes I hear voices.

Thank you :) and sorry for the long post.
 
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Hi - that experience sounds familiar to me (and I don't possess any superpowers, unfortunately!) Voices can take all forms, and don't necessarily address you directly. If it's any consolation, I hear them a lot less than I used to and am much better at dealing with them when I do, so they are no longer distressing - just a bit irritating, especially at night. So I think you can learn to live with them.
 
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Hi Hedgecobra,

At night mine sound like a crowd talking - like at a noisy restaurant, but without the sound of dishes and such. I can pick out a few words, but not much. Some times negative phrases about me or something I did. I sleep in the living room with the TV on which helps a lot for some reason. Doesn't happen often, thankfully. Day time voices sound like a couple of people talking in the other room, or on a radio. A few times it was like someone was right next to me, but when I turned, no one was there. Haven't had any for a while, so I think its something that may come and go for some people. Hopefully, it will go away for you, too.
 
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HedgeCobra

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Thankyou for the reply. It makes me feel a bit more reassured.
I've tried explaining all this to my psychiatrist and she's not officially said, I'm hearing voices. Maybe irts because I can't explain it properly.
@HHRT1 That is exactly how experience them. Feels likes 2 people at least having a natter above me or in the room next door. Can hear some words or sentences. At work for example, I was getting some bar stock, and this voice tells me we've ran out of a particular wine. And I didn't even know. Maybe it's part of my subconscious.

Sometimes the voices are more prominent, other days I don't notice so much. But they are just constant with me.

Id just like my Dr's to understand what exactly is going on, because at the moment it seems like they're n out treating them as voices.
 
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Hearing Voices

Hi,

I also hear voices and they argue about me. Sometimes they get really noisy like a scene from the British Parliament. The argument continues. I had a friend from the ward who suffers the same illness and he is helping me embrace the voices. Talk to them he said and let them know that I co-exist with them. This friend is honing his abilities through para-psychology and he delves in subjects such as shamanism and all the spirituality concepts that we have in life.

What I can say about the voices is that, they are real. They dont tell me to do anything. But they argue about me. I wish them peace. When i think of a person like a friend or a cousin abroad, I hear them talking to me. I see them in my mind. With regards to this, I took up meditation and listening to binaural music to enhance the third eye. It lifts up the energy.

With medication, this had subsided a lot and if they say that my visions are part of my psychosis then that does not explain why people are having visions. Its all taken into a positive perspective and the drive to live with these 'talents' can only help in the realisation that we are normal this way.

I do not have suicidal tendencies nor do i want to harm others. I am just living constantly with these voices. But I had an episode when my partner walked away from me. I had a mental breakdown. I could see her everywhere i go, in places where we had been, on buses that we used to ride together, on the train, and if there is somebody who looks like her. I would be stressed out by it. I see her driving cars and most of the time i used to see her walking around the house. on every street corner and on the green across the promenade. The things that we used to do together becomes a scene in my mind and I see her. That was my episode of psychosis.

I want to know how to be able to live around this illness. The mental breakdown that I had had been addressed with drugs and treatment. It helped me stabilise myself for more than a year now. The loss of her walking away from me has devastated me so much. I could not understand why she had to leave me when she used to love me so much. I couldnt comprehend her actions and could not come to terms with it.
 
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My voices are external (in that I hear them from outside my mind). They can sound like a large group of people all talking at once too. Luckily for me I explained it to my psychiatrist and he said it sounds like a voice hearing experience. I was relieved as I know I am obviously not alone with these experiences. Sometimes my voices sound very angry and argumentative (usually happens when I am stressed out) and I can grasp some of what they are saying which are usually very destructive commands to harm myself or harm others. I would never do that however.

I would much rather have the mutant X-men style superpowers than just be hearing voices though. That way I could hang out with Wolverine! ;)
 
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Hi hedgecobra ive suffered voices in the past but not clear more like a radio in another room. Sometimes I could hear the odd word but mostly it was unintelligible chatter apart from the odd time someone /thing would shout my name very distinctly and tell me to concentrate. Even that was not an inner thought but as if someone was in the room with me. I think everyone’s experience of voices is different but should be taken seriously
 
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I've come to the conclusion I must be hearing voices to some extent. Having read what people experience, it seems I'm having a similar set of experiences.
I spoke to my CPN again about it and he's pretty certain I'm hearing voices, and said sometimes verbally speaking back when appropriate can help.
 
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Yes it can help HedgeCobra to verbally speak back. I give my voices their 'soapbox hour' where they have an hour of my time. After that hour is up however, I pay them no more attention by speaking to them until the next day when it is soapbox hour again.
 
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Welcome to the forums Hedge Cobra. According to the book, 'Hearing Voices: A Common Human Experience" by John Watkins, according to a study sited on page 7 of the book:

"The results of the study demonstrate that brief and occasional auditory hallucinations [i.e. Voices] of particular types are reasonably common among the college student population. Indeed, the results suggest that more than half of the normal population may have some experience with voice hallucinations [of differing types, during their life time up to the point of the study]".

The problem is not so much in the percpetion of voices or visions. The problem is actually two fold.

The first problem is found in how these perceptions are received by the person experiencing those perceptions and how the perceptions are received by those whom they are reported to. How people react to a voice is highly affected by what culture they were raised in and the belief systems of that culture. In cultures where spirituality is a legitimate consideration, such as shamanic or eastern cultures, the perceptions are typically not defined as a sign of mental illness but as a component in the process of enlightenment, or a spiritual gift and sign of shamanistic or spiritual talent.

The second problem, is what I call "The Problem of Attribution". Because a disembodied voice, is a mystery, people are often quick to attribute the voice to some to some being or agency, instead of delaying or completely abandoning the attribution process of attribution. Even in societies where voices and visions are not pathologized, the problem of attribution can prevent a person from actually understanding the perception of voice or vision, within a context that can extract the most benefit for all involved. "The problem of Attribution" can actually lead a person down a path of paranoia and unwarranted suspicion and fear and evoke more diagnoses and pathologizing.

Ignorance. lack of wisdom, and immaturity are the worst enemies of insight. The solve is to find those persons that have had similar perceptions and have grown form the experience.
 
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Welcome to the forums Hedge Cobra. According to the book, 'Hearing Voices: A Common Human Experience" by John Watkins, according to a study sited on page 7 of the book:

"The results of the study demonstrate that brief and occasional auditory hallucinations [i.e. Voices] of particular types are reasonably common among the college student population. Indeed, the results suggest that more than half of the normal population may have some experience with voice hallucinations [of differing types, during their life time up to the point of the study]".

The problem is not so much in the percpetion of voices or visions. The problem is actually two fold.

The first problem is found in how these perceptions are received by the person experiencing those perceptions and how the perceptions are received by those whom they are reported to. How people react to a voice is highly affected by what culture they were raised in and the belief systems of that culture. In cultures where spirituality is a legitimate consideration, such as shamanic or eastern cultures, the perceptions are typically not defined as a sign of mental illness but as a component in the process of enlightenment, or a spiritual gift and sign of shamanistic or spiritual talent.

The second problem, is what I call "The Problem of Attribution". Because a disembodied voice, is a mystery, people are often quick to attribute the voice to some to some being or agency, instead of delaying or completely abandoning the attribution process of attribution. Even in societies where voices and visions are not pathologized, the problem of attribution can prevent a person from actually understanding the perception of voice or vision, within a context that can extract the most benefit for all involved. "The problem of Attribution" can actually lead a person down a path of paranoia and unwarranted suspicion and fear and evoke more diagnoses and pathologizing.

Ignorance. lack of wisdom, and immaturity are the worst enemies of insight. The solve is to find those persons that have had similar perceptions and have grown form the experience.
How enlightening to read your words.

I hear auditory voices like the TV is on and I jump up to see and it is not on. I feel terrible when this happens on a daily bases. I really do not feel threaten by the voices I just accept that I am hearing them and for reasons I am not aware of.
 
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