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Hi I have the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. I have a huge battle going on because when I've talked to people in the past about the voice that speaks to me most conclude that I'm hearing the voice of schizophrenia simply because I'm hearing a voice. I have been hearing this mans voice for about 15 years straight. I was ok with this mans voice because he was very comical, very encouraging, very clear and very accurate. Sometimes I think I maybe a prophet. However I cant jump to conclusions as this mans voice has said some things that just weren't true. But whether the content is truth I'm still hearing this mans voice speaking to me audibly 24/7. If I were to be absolutely blunt and severe with my own personal experience the conclusion would be "This is not the voice of schizophrenia" Don't get me wrong I'm still very frustrated with it as it has bought me no friends, no job, NO MONEY, no nothing.

I've been non-compliant with medication for 4 years (I got caught out) I'm now on a compulsory treatment order and on the injection. I'm physically distraught and I am not coping to well. I still hear the mans voice 24/7 (I call this voice the Holy Spirit) . Does anyone have any comments to make.
 
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If it was the actual voice of God, Why would he want to have no friends, no job, no money? I would really hope that God, would not want that for anyone. If you are a prophet,are your prophecies worth not having anything? Sorry to be so blunt but I've lost everything too. I can't even have a family now. Medication never worked for me but some it works for, go figure.

Please don't get me wrong. I'm so sorry that this is happening to you. I'm only saying this to give you a different point of view. I'm sure you'll hear more than mine. Come to your own your own conclusions. If you feel the same after reading everyone's comments, it will still be your own decision.
 
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Hello immortality
Even though you may not want to hear this, I agree with backagain2. God would definitely not be in your face 24/7 and he most certainly would not want you living an isolated life...quite the contrary. He wants you to have a happy life filled with love for yourself and others and to be a part of the life that is around you in a positive way. What would happen if you just ignored that voice for a while? BTW, even though I said God would not be in your face 24/7, he is a part of you and can be contacted from deep within as he would never take it upon himself to audibly talk with you especially when it causes distress in your life. When you talk with God, try to direct your talk to the God deep within you instead of the one you can audibly hear...you will have to listen much more closely though when listening deep within. Peace for you
 
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One of the things that really helps me on an ongoing basis is to Google "delusions" and you will find loads of examples of other people who believe that God is talking to them. When you are in the midst of a delusion, it's hard to believe that it's an illness, but this is what you have to try to do. This morning I was having a hard time because my voices were saying "Warning" and that if I didn't give all my money away, there would be a nuclear war coming. But I went onto the internet and looked up some more examples of delusions and it always helps me to do that.

So here is something I found on the internet today. I think it was written by a doctor who was treating a man who thought he was a Celtic god -

• One particular Celtic God I used to know was always threatening suicide but his motive was interesting. It was not that he would die, it was that should he commit suicide the whole of the human race would come to an end.
He died in suspicious circumstances. It was uncertain whether this was an accident caused by a heart attack or whether he had deliberately done this.
It was a sad loss and a sad end to what had been a very sad and disturbed life but it appears that the human race survived.


So you can see from the above that this man had an illness which made him think the human race would end when he died, but that didn't happen. We're all still here.

That man's voices/thoughts lied to him. Mine lie to me. You have said yours lie to you. Try hard to see what you are going through as an illness, because this makes it easier to ignore. Then just do what all the rest of us do, and try hard to distract yourself. Google, listen to music, read, whatever helps.
 
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That story that troubled put in his post was really interesting to me. The human race didn't end but his existence did. His voices were right but he listened to them and it didn't end how he thought it would. After he was gone the human race didn't exist to him anymore. You can't rely on anyone's opinion but yourself when you have schizophrenia(not your voices). You shouldn't give the voices any power over you.
 
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Hi sorry but I couldnt explain a fifteen year experience in a few words. Thats my point. It is 24/7 and there's nothing I can do about it. I'm married (25 years) with two daughters both are working. I attend Elim church. I have talked to a few people about my experience but because I have the diagnosis of schizophrenia I have been ignored totally. I have been discussing this with my psychiatrist for 14 years and his question to me every time is what is the Holy Spirit been talking to you about. Dont take the prophet thing to serious as I dont either.
 
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Thanks for your advice. My psychiatrist who I have known for well over 15 years now always asks me before my consultation (since we have been discussing this issue for 14 years) "Whats the Holy Spirit being saying to you" I only listen I never act on the voice that speaks to me. Only when I'm told things like you got work to do. Theres the washing, theres the dishes, theres the vaccumming or you need to have a shower, dont think the toothbrush is going to jump up and brush your teeth now go to the bathroom and brush your teeth. So I hear loud and clear good commands. Dont be too sure about it being a DELUSION however I'm sure I have asked this questions thousands of times are these auditory hallucinations or am I hearing from God.
 
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I can relate to this.

I am sorry that this might be confusing for you, but I believe some people really do hear the Holy Spirit guide them.

You will know whether the voice is from God or not by the fruits it bears.
 
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Hi Troubled,
If I may add a tad of insight to your comment about "try hard to see what you are going through as an illness"...I would like to add, try even harder to see the delusion for exactly what it is...a comment, maybe even a suggestion and nothing more. In my opinion, it is not an illness. It hurts me when anyone that hears voices or is labeled with schizophrenia views themselves as having an "illness". I do understand this is how the mental health profession views it and has labeled it so, but only because they have no other answers and it is the best they can do with the information they have. Again, my opinion, it is our lack of self-esteem which comes from not believing in ourselves. It is doubt. The most powerful tool we have is believing in ourselves whole heartedly. If we can do this, nothing else will have control over us. This does not mean let the ego take charge ;)
 
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I also have a still quiet voice that hives me good advice and leads me to do things I need to do, which I otherwise might not have done if I had not been guided to.

I have confusion over whether I am ill or not. It is something I have been confused about for a long time.

A prophet is never received In his own country.
 
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You shouldn't give the voices any power over you - so very, very true and perfectly said backagain2! Great advice!

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Hi again Immortality

Please don't say there is nothing you can do about it. There is ALWAYS something you can do. You can try not to listen to that voice. You can try to find yourself again...the self before your life was so rudely interrupted by that fruitless voice. You can ask the god deep within for help in getting back to you. It truly can be done if you work hard at it...I know this because I have done it. Give it a try...can do no harm to try ;)
 
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That voice is like your inner motivator.
I think their is a purpose to every one of the voices but it can get so confusing.
At least that one isn't hurting, its just helpful.
 
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I understand your views and feelings on your situation, but...I would really love to see you being privileged in not so harsh of a way...because you deserve it. I will keep you in my prayers as I pray for each and everyone of us every day. All the best to you Immortality :flowers:
 
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Hi Kelly2017, I hope I didn't offend you by calling psychosis an illness, but it actually helps me to see it that way, in me anyway. I do think that God is trying to tell me something, I just don't know what. A few times my psychosis came on within a few days of me saying prayers, so I can't even say prayers any more because it turns me psychotic.

In the beginning, I heard voices which I interpreted as meaning I had to make friends with my brother, so I did and the voices went away. Same thing happened all over again, I fell out with my brother, I heard them, I made friends again, the voices went away.

But these days they just keep trying to make me give all my money away, and just now while I'm typing this, they're twitching me on the left, which is them saying "No". So all night they've been telling me to give money away, and now they're saying either "No we didn't do that" or "No, you don't have to give all your money away", both of which are the exact opposite of what they've been telling me all night.

I went vegan because they told me to and now they are telling me I am only allowed to eat raw food, and I have to give up my car and my mobile phone. They are not allowing me to have those. They tell me I'm going to hell if I don't do what they say, but the rest of the world isn't even vegetarian, let alone vegan, so why aren't all those people going to hell and yet I am? They don't sit around telling me that everyone else is going to hell, they just tell me that I am. Why aren't they telling me that all the meat-eaters are going to hell?

I'm not allowed to take antipsychotics, or any tablets at all, because I'm not allowed to use anything that's been tested on animals. They keep trying to make me give money away, and once they told me to give money to Diabetes UK, which tests on animals. Why do they make me be vegan, and tell me I can't take a single tablet which has been tested on animals, and yet they try to make me give money to a company that tests on animals? They told me I was going to hell because I took a painkiller a couple of weeks ago.

I just get endlessly confused by my psychosis and my voices and I actually find it a great comfort to tell myself I'm ill, because otherwise I sit and believe that I'm going to hell for not living on raw food.
 
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Hi Troubled,
Just have to say I am not offended by you calling the psychosis an illness...it really just makes me sad to see people thinking they're sick when they're really not and now that you've read my book, you may understand why ;)
 

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