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Unipolar mania? (Or hypomania?) Anyone?

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Is anybody out there a unipolar manic (or hypomanic)? Or do you know one? Or have you ever met one? (I haven't.) Is it really possible to experience just the "high" end of bipolar?

If so, how many episodes have you (or the monopolar manic you know) had? How severe were they; was psychosis involved? And how euphoric were these episodes? Was any anxiety, irritability, paranoia, agitation, rage or outright depression mixed in? (I'm wondering whether unipolar manics don't just experience their dysphoria and depression mixed into the mania?) Is it really pssible to live a life free of major depression? (Or minor depression for that matter?) (I'm so manic-depressive, I find it hard to envisage life any other way!)

If there are any unipolar manics out there, I'm interested to know what their personality was like before the condition first manifested. Do they have hypomanic or hyperthymic personality traits anyhow? And what is their functioning like between episodes? Do any manic symptoms persist into normal life?

Details please! :drool::boo:
 
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I had depression for most of my teenage years, then it turned to mania. Since then the only time I have had depression it's been med induced, other than that when I've been particularly manic and I am ashamed I become suicidal but seem to pass the bit called 'depression'. So no I would say I never really get depressed, not in 25 years anyway, only hypomania and mania. I always find it hard to understand when bipolar people are mainly depressed, even though I know that's another 'version' of the illness - it's just difficult for me personally because I am the opposite. My trouble is I'm always doing everything too fast, am constantly elated, spending loads, grandiose, making plans, on a mission, irritable, anxious, hyped up.... But nothing else really :(

Edited to add: No I wasn't like this before - as I child I was so shy, quiet and seriously introverted I actually used to have some sort of social worker person come round and I remember him saying to my Mum that he thought I had a mild form of autism as I was way above average intelligence but completely unable to socialise. Then the mania kicked in and I became a wild party animal, out every night and shagging everything that moved. :scared:
 
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I have just got out of hospital and there was a man who only experienced the manic aspect of bipolar. It is still called bipolar as its the mania which is the key to diagnosis. I have heard of unipolar depression - which I think is different from recurrent depressions because there can be total lack of insight and psychosis with it. But there is no unipolar mania that I have ever heard of before.
 
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When I was a student nurse on a psych ward for 5 weeks, I indeed did come across people diagnosed with bipolar I think bipolar 1 has the hyper symptoms then bipolar 2. Its is interesting but why would you want to come down from that? well as I observed it can get you into a bit of strife rather.
Grandiose ideology, paranoia etc, at the end of the day it all gets out of control, financially, relationship wise and of course stopping the meds (as why would you want to take them if they stop the high)
Its great while it lasts,
but long term its not so hot really
 
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The so called 'highs' are rarely happy. There is a frenetic quality which can be utterly destructive and, in my case, horrendous. High is NOT a nice feeling, and the paranoia is excruciating at times. The problem with such highs is that it relaxes the necessary inhibitions in us all, and that leads to some terrible actions. xx
 
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I would consider myself less depressive, more hypomanic. During depressive phases, I tend not to be depressed, but more soulsearchy. I become inward viewing and reflective, constantly reviewing my mistakes. Then, when I'm hypomanic, I become excited, ready to take on the world, very sociable, occasionally risky, but under control. I have better relations with customers and classmates. In both situations, my grades stay relatively high (A's). I have been called "bright" and "talented" in most things I do. I find benefit in both phases, although I prefer hypomania out of ease. I just do very well and get a lot done. Its gotten better as I've gotten older. I used to have dangerous mania and depression. At one point, I was seeing things and then every once and a while become suicidal. I think when I realized the danger of it all I shut down emotionally. I became neutral I suppose you could say. Over time, I've let my guard down and recently I've been having hypomanic and slightly depressive phases. I think spirituality brought me back. I've taken bipolar tests multiple times in my life over spans of years (2-3 years apart) and every time I get a result of moderate to severely bipolar. My parents have for the most part ignored the reality. I've come to realize the reality. I can see myself making the same mistakes that they say bipolar individuals make. I just know how to twist them to my advantage.
 
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I am an undiagnosed hypomaniac with short spurts of depression. I'd say a lot of people could utter that phrase and be partially right. I had an event that rocked the foundations of my life at the age of 23 and depression seemed like the obvious path for me to take, but I ended up in a state of euphoria. Everything was better. I wrote that what I saw was more vivid, foods were exponentially more tasty and relationships meant more to me. I was hypercreative for months on end. I started medical school and felt like I was on top of the world. People shouldn't be this happy (I told myself that), especially not in medical school. But eventually I came down off my high. I would have a period of about 4-5 days where I lost focus, felt useless and ultimately suffered academically. Then I'd fall asleep. I would wake up thinking that maybe if I just did a little extra to better myself, then I'd be happy. That turned into all-nighters for no apparent reason. I learned to rock climb and purchased 1000$ worth of gear within a 3 month span. I was having a second manic episode, looking back. I recently thought I was burnt out with school after a bad test. Then I went and tried to do anything else, but for days I felt those same feelings cropping up. I'm in that period right now. I've so far had 3 mini depressions where I almost shut down. I eat right and sleep more, then try to get back on track. I've had 2 major manic stages where I had less fear, more confidence, more happiness, and more creativity. I can't see having the good without the bad, but for the past year I've had much more mania than depression and I actually like the ebb and flow of it as long as I can manage it. It took my ex-wife telling me she was homosexual to jolt me into this as before I was just a generally happy guy. Now, I can feel more on both ends of the spectrum. I've been the life of the party and I've been a recluse for a week. I don't fear the depression as long as it brings with it a renewed sense of happiness afterward.
 
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Ey Gledwood I want to tell you unipolar mania exist and it has already been diagnosed on many people in the Freud Era the reason why it's not in the DSM anymore is this desease is extremely rare 1/10000 and the doctors find it hard to prove there's no depression intereliate. Then they have no time to waste since there's already a lot people suffering from thousand other deseases that affect the society production and security really more. A maniac can still be in fonction and productive unless he suffer also of anxiety but benzo are easy to get or becomes really manic. By my side I'm a bipolar since 2006 but never had any depressive episodes my doctor only gives me zyprexa since it's an anti manic and klonopin to calm me down at night. So there I am I just have a tendency for the mania without depression. I did many mania episodes in my life but 2 went wrong one I rob a car and last thing I remember they arrested me at 180mph the police kept me 1 day before the hospital and I was so high that I lied about everything even my name. The second time it just that I play at the casino during 5 days non stop without fatigue no drugs but lost 10k not a lot but it was not mine. All I want to tell you is only mania deseases is not a diagnosed desease but it's real and it's not true that you don't need help you will finish one way o other taking anti manics. Also a mania can turn really bad if you take drugs. That's my story.
Take care.
 
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Hello, I am a 30 yr old male. I was diagnosed Bi-Polar 1 in 2005. I was inpatient in the hospital for two weeks. I had another episode in 2007. Only manic no depression anywhere in between. In 2009 I went to the hospital two more times with the same manic episode. In 2012 I again went with another manic episode. I have been on Risperdal Depakote combination for a few years and have only recently been able(with Dr's supervision) to up it enough where I feel no more manic symptoms. I in my ten years have never once been evenly remotely depressed. I am a graduate student going for a PhD in Business Intelligence. I am perfectly capable of functioning through everyday life, however am still to this day classified as Bi-Polar NOS. I KNOW I am Uni-Polar Manic. It's time that psychiatrists recognize it. If anyone has any questions, fire away. Thanks ETim
 
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Hello, I am a 30 yr old male. I was diagnosed Bi-Polar 1 in 2005. I was inpatient in the hospital for two weeks. I had another episode in 2007. Only manic no depression anywhere in between. In 2009 I went to the hospital two more times with the same manic episode. In 2012 I again went with another manic episode. I have been on Risperdal Depakote combination for a few years and have only recently been able(with Dr's supervision) to up it enough where I feel no more manic symptoms. I in my ten years have never once been evenly remotely depressed. I am a graduate student going for a PhD in Business Intelligence. I am perfectly capable of functioning through everyday life, however am still to this day classified as Bi-Polar NOS. I KNOW I am Uni-Polar Manic. It's time that psychiatrists recognize it. If anyone has any questions, fire away. Thanks ETim
Ey ETIM I just want to tell you that there's a new kind of bipolar disorder it is called Bipolar type 3 no depression only manic episodes. Psychiatrist now understand that you can go high without going below neutral after. I understand that in this brain mechanism the type 3 never depletes his serotonin receptors, it protect you after the mania. Also I suggest you to switch to Zyprexa, in my opinion it make you feel less like a zombie than Risperdal and it doesn't affect your libido. Hope it helps you, any questions ask me I have a degree in neurology, psychology, sociology and chemistry.
 
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Is anybody out there a unipolar manic (or hypomanic)?
Yes, I believe that I am a unipolar maniac. Technically I am diagnosed with bi-polar but I have never experienced depression. I am always manic, underneath the surface of my experience. I take Zyprexa, 7.5 mg a day. If I miss a dose I become manic right away. I usually know I'm manic, or about to be manic, by several different indicators: I find cuts, bruises, or scrapes on me, or blood, and I don't have any recollection of being injured because I had did not have any experience of pain, my lips are often chapped from me constantly licking and smacking them...I guess the way someone does who is on adderall. Also, of course, I will know that I'm going to be or am already manic if I start losing sleep, and have no interest in eating food. The bliss and ecstasy is actually always present for me. I'm very happy about that. But it's the lack of sleep and the lack of eating that end up, in my opinion, leading to trouble. That coupled with my perception that since I am not experiencing pain, hunger, sadness, fatigue etc. then I must be dreaming. I also feel like I experience miracles, and that, I understand, is possibly where the "delusion" is apparent.

Is it really possible to experience just the "high" end of bipolar?

Yes I only experience the "high" end of bipolar.

If so, how many episodes have you (or the monopolar manic you know) had?

At least 7 but probably more that went undetected. I've been locked up against my will at least 7 times. Each time for several weeks.

How severe were they; was psychosis involved?

Very severe. What is psychosis? Is it Delusion? What is real? Are miracles possible? What is Joy? Is that True Reality? Is it psychotic to believe that the laws of space and time can be bent or overcome, simply by focusing on our dreams? Is this a dream? I have many questions about this. I believe that, yes technically psychosis was involved. I did things like sprinting next to and then catching high speed train and then riding it for 10 miles into the middle of nowhere. I also believe, when I'm manic that the Apocalypse is near. So I begin preparing for it, buying food and water etc.

And how euphoric were these episodes?

Very Euphoric, I had severe burns one time and they gave me tons of delauded. My mania is more Euphoric than high doses of Delauded and Morphine put together, I believe.

Was any anxiety, irritability, paranoia, agitation, rage or outright depression mixed in?

No. None of that. Well, a little anxiety about the end of the world.

(I'm wondering whether unipolar manics don't just experience their dysphoria and depression mixed into the mania?) Is it really pssible to live a life free of major depression? (Or minor depression for that matter?) (I'm so manic-depressive, I find it hard to envisage life any other way!)

Yes, it is 100% possible, I am proof.

If there are any unipolar manics out there, I'm interested to know what their personality was like before the condition first manifested. Do they have hypomanic or hyperthymic personality traits anyhow? And what is their functioning like between episodes? Do any manic symptoms persist into normal life?

As I child I experienced zero fear. I did amazing crazy things, and have always been extremely happy and bubbly. I function very very well. Manic symptoms do persist in normal life. For exmaple, today, I feel manic. I guess this feeling is more like extreme hypomania. I am euphoric as I write this, pain free, I feel no hunger although I have had very little lately. etc. Life is beautiful and amazing.
 
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ETim, why does Uni-Polar Mania not exist as a diagnosis? I saw it mentioned in the DSM IV as being hypothetically possible but unlikely, or something like that. If someone had told me I was Uni-polar Manic instead of Bi-Polar when I was young, it would have saved a lot of trouble. I never accepted the Bi-Polar diagnosis. Why would someone who is so happy accept a diagnosis labeled "Manic Depression?" Oh course that makes no sense to me. I have never been and I know that i never will be depressed. I'm just not wired that way. I am completely joyful. But still I deal with the humiliation and trauma of being violently locked up against my will over and over again
 
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Extremely similar to ETimothy above, 37 year old male, two extreme manic episodes at 18 then 21 years of age, no history of depression. Both episodes landed me in the psych hospital for about two weeks. Experienced extraordinary heights - merging with God, endless sleepless torrents of energy, couldn't stop talking and sharing about the universe and religion and the nature of existence, spiraling into non functional states where I would get lost, disoriented. Also experienced some anxiety but mostly extreme unbelievable bliss. Also experienced loss of personality / at one point I became completely identified with being someone else (a known famous person). Many other subtler shifts of personal identity. So yes unipolar mania does exist.
 
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Cotyledon,
Tell me about your manic episodes. What did you think about during them? What did you think was going on with the world? About God? the Universe? Religion? Nature of existence? Do you remember? Also, tell me about the famous person you identified with.
 
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Hi unipolar maniac,
So difficult to put the experience into words...the first time around there were strong themes of myself as a prophet needing to act immediately in order to save the world from destruction, it was imperative for me to reach as many people as possible. I recall that as I was being taken to the hospital I was sure i was en route to a TV station so that my message could be broadcast right away. There were many many chapters and stories within each episode, sometimes rapidly shifting. On the subject of god, it wasn't so much what i was thinking about god, but that i was god, it was a direct experience that i was attempting to communicate, i'm sure that what i was saying made very little sense to the outside world, of course i wasn't in a mode of being able to communicate well.

I've always been amazed and enraptured by bjork the singer, and during the second episode, my ego somehow morphed and i became her, told people i was her, and went around singing her songs and existing as her. I don't recall how that chapter ended, it was exceptionally strange, the thought of that happening now feels unnerving. It was wonderful, bizarre and frantic in the moment. My ego and my sense of myself were very fluid taking all kinds of twists and turns, thoughts and fears and joys being powerfully amplified, energy coursing through me...
My last episode was 16 years ago, quite isolated to my past. Both episodes came on at times of big life stressors. An extremely painful breakup a few years ago threatened the stability of my mental health, but did not actually bring about psychosis. I'm a student of buddhism and have been practicing meditation regularly for many years now, exercise most days, eat well, and these have very much contributed to my mental health. I'm fascinated by the spiritual path, and psychology. I'm currently applying to grad school, going towards a masters degree in mental health counseling. Having been through so much, I have feel that i have a great deal to offer to others.

Unipolar Maniac, I've just been reading some of your other recent posts, I can relate to so much of what you're saying in terms of your energy level, it really reminds me of my own experiences with mania. A few things come to mind. I have a somewhat continually hypomanic friend who uses marijuana several times a day to no ill effect and it certainly does help regulate his energy level (keep it from soaring into the clouds). I'm really not a fan of psychiatric meds except in cases of emergency, i'm sure i'm not alone in that feeling. Natural botanicals can be a great substitute. Ever tried kava ? Also, have you found regular vigorous physical activity to be helpful ? How about farming ? ; )
 
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Hi unipolar maniac,
So difficult to put the experience into words...the first time around there were strong themes of myself as a prophet needing to act immediately in order to save the world from destruction, it was imperative for me to reach as many people as possible. I recall that as I was being taken to the hospital I was sure i was en route to a TV station so that my message could be broadcast right away. There were many many chapters and stories within each episode, sometimes rapidly shifting. On the subject of god, it wasn't so much what i was thinking about god, but that i was god, it was a direct experience that i was attempting to communicate, i'm sure that what i was saying made very little sense to the outside world, of course i wasn't in a mode of being able to communicate well.

I've always been amazed and enraptured by bjork the singer, and during the second episode, my ego somehow morphed and i became her, told people i was her, and went around singing her songs and existing as her. I don't recall how that chapter ended, it was exceptionally strange, the thought of that happening now feels unnerving. It was wonderful, bizarre and frantic in the moment. My ego and my sense of myself were very fluid taking all kinds of twists and turns, thoughts and fears and joys being powerfully amplified, energy coursing through me...
My last episode was 16 years ago, quite isolated to my past. Both episodes came on at times of big life stressors. An extremely painful breakup a few years ago threatened the stability of my mental health, but did not actually bring about psychosis. I'm a student of buddhism and have been practicing meditation regularly for many years now, exercise most days, eat well, and these have very much contributed to my mental health. I'm fascinated by the spiritual path, and psychology. I'm currently applying to grad school, going towards a masters degree in mental health counseling. Having been through so much, I have feel that i have a great deal to offer to others.

Unipolar Maniac, I've just been reading some of your other recent posts, I can relate to so much of what you're saying in terms of your energy level, it really reminds me of my own experiences with mania. A few things come to mind. I have a somewhat continually hypomanic friend who uses marijuana several times a day to no ill effect and it certainly does help regulate his energy level (keep it from soaring into the clouds). I'm really not a fan of psychiatric meds except in cases of emergency, i'm sure i'm not alone in that feeling. Natural botanicals can be a great substitute. Ever tried kava ? Also, have you found regular vigorous physical activity to be helpful ? How about farming ? ; )
I can totally relate to your story about going to the TV station, but you were actually going to the hospital. Also I can relate to the feeling that you are God. Actually I relate to everything your saying. I've tried Kava, it works very well, as does Valerian Root, and also Melatonin at night. Herb works very well for me, and I partake in it quite a bit. I also take benedryl sometimes at night. I'm prescribed 7.5 mg of Zyprexa, which works perfectly, and without it I would be manic right away. I also meditate constantly. All throughout the day, from the moment I put my feet on the rug of my bedroom floor, to brushing my teeth, showering, walking to work, I am constantly repeating mantra's and focusing on staying in the present moment, and being grateful. I also exercise vigorously, regularly, and that helps a great deal. I love to dig in the dirt. Whenever I'm gardening, I feel like I'm reconnecting with an old part of myself.
 
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I believe I probably have had unipolar hypomania since I was about 13. I have not been unhappy about anything for mor than 10-15 minutes since then. I also don't think I have been able to stop or slow my perpetual thoughts about anything and everything since about the same time. I am also constantly excited and low level euphoric. This is great except for the fact that I tend to be way way too intense and tend to intimidate everyone. I don't have any instances of going full manic in that due to the fact that I always think about everything I understand the consequences of everything before I do it. The only other thing I can think of that may be a symptom is the fact that I get bored easily, learn way too fast, and thereby tend to make myself forget specifics, like names while retaining concepts. This allows for fluidity of thought and new generation of ideas so I don't run out of stuff to learn and think about in new ways and combinations.

This lifestyle is awesome and leads to new things as I will detail further but most people won't believe what I will continue to relate and may want to stop reading here.
Due to the fact that I never stop thinking I have developed the ability over time to control many parts of my anatomy such as blood flow (involves prevention of cold hands and feet at will, best so far is no gloves in 10 degree weather with ~20mph winds for 8 hours), pupil dialation, auditory acuity and rudimentary closing of the ear canal, prevention of any and all headaches (due to control of blood flow to my brain, I'm pretty careful with this one), rudimentary body heat control, sweating from anywhere, preventing sweat requires way more concentration, as does heart rate, causing or preventing the feeling of pain, hunger, anoror soreness, this does not mean I don't need to eat as I found out after preventing hunger for 3 days and becoming light headed and fatigued. I also once almost worked myself to exhaustion by preventing the feeling of soreness so some care is needed. As it is now whenever I think of something else to do it doesn't take more than a few minutes to get a rudimentary hold of and about a day to get as far with it as possible at the time.

Anyway, I'm not sure that what I have is a diagnosable condition but it does make my life awesome, at least from my perspective.
 
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Sorry I forgot to mention that I'm not sure I have distinct episodes but sometimes I feel like becoming a little more excited, because why not, and choose to basically initiate and maintain an adrenaline rush. I can maintain the rush on full for a few minutes with the right concentration and can maintain a low level rush for hours. Probably not great for my body but I've been doing it for more than 7 years and I haven't noticed any side effects. Also in regards to others questions and contemplations on religion and God, I have developed a very strong faith in God, but don't go around preaching or anything. Only if someone else brings up the topic and asks my opinion will I share my views. Which again are often commented on as being incredibly deep and thought through, as well as difficult to argue as I tenw to think through every angle available.

I don't really tend to care about current events that don't directly affect me. I also don't really care for a particular celebrity or group, only finding what interests me and not really pursuing more knowledge that doesn't.
 
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Phenomenal!

Sorry I forgot to mention that I'm not sure I have distinct episodes but sometimes I feel like becoming a little more excited, because why not, and choose to basically initiate and maintain an adrenaline rush. I can maintain the rush on full for a few minutes with the right concentration and can maintain a low level rush for hours. Probably not great for my body but I've been doing it for more than 7 years and I haven't noticed any side effects. Also in regards to others questions and contemplations on religion and God, I have developed a very strong faith in God, but don't go around preaching or anything. Only if someone else brings up the topic and asks my opinion will I share my views. Which again are often commented on as being incredibly deep and thought through, as well as difficult to argue as I tenw to think through every angle available.

I don't really tend to care about current events that don't directly affect me. I also don't really care for a particular celebrity or group, only finding what interests me and not really pursuing more knowledge that doesn't.
Im struggling with this forum and smart device so please forgive the short reply. My initial reaction is that is absolutely incredible sounding and I believe every word of it. I am so pleased to hear how you regulate your body. I just got bitten in the head by a dog a few minutes ago. I feel no pain now or when it happened. I do not normally feel pain much