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Travelling, crowds, shops.

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Hachiko

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Who else has trouble with anxiety with travelling and enclosed spaces like trains and shops aisles etc. I just want to get out as fast as possible. My vision actually becomes blurred and I become aggressive.
 
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Me. I'm not too bad in the asda that I go to as I've developed a route that I take. I'm now able to zone out from the people just as long as I stick to my route and go on the same day. A change in day, or route will just reset me to full blown anxiety.

I cant even get on public transport and would rather walk miles than use it.

I handle it a lot better when I actually say out loud "this is too much. I'm freaking out I need to leave" and actually leave. Acknowledging it seems to help me some how. Before, I'd be too busy trying to hide that I was struggling it would cause me to react negatively by being snappy, irritable and all on edge. Now i dont hide it and just find a way out of the situation.
 
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Hi Folks,

I would recommend if you have not already done so, book in to see a GP, and one that deals with mental health preferably as well, if not you can be referred onto community mental health team, and I would recommend a very good anti anxiety medication, known as Pregabalin, I now will be taking 75ml, to help me out with other aspects, about me, and in terms of travel to volunteering, localised travel for shopping, it is brilliant, and doesn't cause me to feel so sleepy either.
 
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Me. I'm not too bad in the asda that I go to as I've developed a route that I take. I'm now able to zone out from the people just as long as I stick to my route and go on the same day. A change in day, or route will just reset me to full blown anxiety.

I cant even get on public transport and would rather walk miles than use it.

I handle it a lot better when I actually say out loud "this is too much. I'm freaking out I need to leave" and actually leave. Acknowledging it seems to help me some how. Before, I'd be too busy trying to hide that I was struggling it would cause me to react negatively by being snappy, irritable and all on edge. Now i dont hide it and just find a way out of the situation.
Ditto. I feel exactly the same. If we have to go out I prefer Sunday mornings when it's quite. Unfortunately my partner always wants to go on Saturdays because the trains don't always work on Sundays. So I get dragged along. So in general I don't look forward to weekends.
 
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Ditto. I feel exactly the same. If we have to go out I prefer Sunday mornings when it's quite. Unfortunately my partner always wants to go on Saturdays because the trains don't always work on Sundays. So I get dragged along. So in general I don't look forward to weekends.
I hope this weekend isnt too bad for you.

Natalie is right, if you havent already you should see your GP. I use anxiety meds too (propanolol and/or buspirone) and find they do help ease the anxiety symptoms
 
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I hope this weekend isnt too bad for you.

Natalie is right, if you havent already you should see your GP. I use anxiety meds too (propanolol and/or buspirone) and find they do help ease the anxiety symptoms
Thanks for the sentiment. I take Cbd oil which helps a bit. Further than that I try avoid situations that cause me to stress. Like going into the city.
 
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Me! I absolutely struggle with this. Gosh it's nice to be around people who struggle with similar things because it often feels like everyone else is fine with society and it's just me who has a problem with it.

I was ok when I was younger but for several years I've struggled with anxiety and panic attacks and supermarkets, crowded trains, crowds in general, queues seem to be the worst triggers. I've analysed it and realised its anywhere I feel trapped, ie. in a queue you're sort of trapped unless you are happy to just leave the shop without buying what you needed. If you want to buy something you're forced to queue and that tends to be a big trigger for me. It actually makes me feel like I desperately need to wee which is terrible. Of course as soon as I get home I'm fine and the feeling has gone.

I've had panic attacks at airports, on aeroplanes and at a train station, all due to having to wait a long time in a crowded busy noisy place, usually with a lack of sleep. I've had to work hard doing exposure therapy to be able to manage going to the supermarket and get on trains. I still avoid very busy places and don't often leave my town now, whereas in the past I lived abroad and travelled a lot. For me I think it started with the London bombings and when they changed airport security to make it really intense and stressful with loads of rules and that just escalated my anxiety in general about transport and public places. You used to be able to just get on a plane with very little security, it would be fairly quiet, then you'd collect your bag at the the end and it would all be very easy and relaxed.

I also often feel dizzy. Do you find everything looks too bright? I find shops so crazily bright. At home I put nice lamps on when it's dark and don't have the lights on in the day because that's what daylight is for, so the shops with insanely bright strip lights in shops in the day make me feel really weird and anxious.

I've concluded that actually it's pretty normal to be stressed out by these things, because they are unnatural. Ie we are just animals but society has evolved so that now we are mostly cut off from nature. Imagine putting wild animals in crazy strip lighted supermarkets, I don't think they'd like it either and would soon find a way out. It only takes a few minutes out in nature for me to feel so much better. What I don't understand is how a lot of people don't notice things like crazily bright lights, I think they are all brainwashed and disconnected from themselves.
 
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Me! I absolutely struggle with this. Gosh it's nice to be around people who struggle with similar things because it often feels like everyone else is fine with society and it's just me who has a problem with it.

I was ok when I was younger but for several years I've struggled with anxiety and panic attacks and supermarkets, crowded trains, crowds in general, queues seem to be the worst triggers. I've analysed it and realised its anywhere I feel trapped, ie. in a queue you're sort of trapped unless you are happy to just leave the shop without buying what you needed. If you want to buy something you're forced to queue and that tends to be a big trigger for me. It actually makes me feel like I desperately need to wee which is terrible. Of course as soon as I get home I'm fine and the feeling has gone.

I've had panic attacks at airports, on aeroplanes and at a train station, all due to having to wait a long time in a crowded busy noisy place, usually with a lack of sleep. I've had to work hard doing exposure therapy to be able to manage going to the supermarket and get on trains. I still avoid very busy places and don't often leave my town now, whereas in the past I lived abroad and travelled a lot. For me I think it started with the London bombings and when they changed airport security to make it really intense and stressful with loads of rules and that just escalated my anxiety in general about transport and public places. You used to be able to just get on a plane with very little security, it would be fairly quiet, then you'd collect your bag at the the end and it would all be very easy and relaxed.

I also often feel dizzy. Do you find everything looks too bright? I find shops so crazily bright. At home I put nice lamps on when it's dark and don't have the lights on in the day because that's what daylight is for, so the shops with insanely bright strip lights in shops in the day make me feel really weird and anxious.

I've concluded that actually it's pretty normal to be stressed out by these things, because they are unnatural. Ie we are just animals but society has evolved so that now we are mostly cut off from nature. Imagine putting wild animals in crazy strip lighted supermarkets, I don't think they'd like it either and would soon find a way out. It only takes a few minutes out in nature for me to feel so much better. What I don't understand is how a lot of people don't notice things like crazily bright lights, I think they are all brainwashed and disconnected from themselves.
Yes, you're not alone in this. When I get stressed my sight starts to blur and my heart slows down which could be why you feel dizzy. I also just need to get out. If the queue is too long then I don't even bother. What really gets me is these self check out machines in the stores where the space is so small and everyone is on top of everyone. You just feel so much pressure to get your business done and get out. Fortunately, my partner just got a second-hand car so we don't have to catch trains on the weekend anymore. Which is the only time I go out besides going to the Doctor. In the apartment, the curtains are closed throughout the day which helps. I prefer the dark and can't wait for autumn and winter. I think the older I become the worse it gets. So I am for the most part happy to spend my time at home and thank goodness for Amazon and delivery.
 
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Do you find having the curtains closed helps Hachiko? For me I have to see the daylight otherwise I feel weird and anxious and end up in a vampire routine of going to sleep in the early hours of the morning then feeling even more disorientated the next day. So I like to get up and open all of the curtains (I do also have nice stylish white cotton curtains from Ikea that I have behind the main curtains which means the light gets in and I can see out but people can't see in).

I need natural light to feel normal and ok so I find the winter a lot harder, my depression usually gets worse and I always feel relieved when March has arrived again as it starts getting lighter.
 
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Hi Creative.
I find that blocking out the outside and the dark helps me. I also had an experience in another complex where this old women was spying on me. I actually caught her peeking through the window. So besides that so I am very private.
 
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I also hate crowded places and shop usually early in the morning when it’s quiet and the thought of going somewhere new that I don’t know can put me in a real panic. And public transport is a nightmare. I need to sit near an exit so i know i can get off if i need to. I take medication for it but it boils down to the fact that you have to push yourself to get ou otherwise you can become housebound
 
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I also hate crowded places and shop usually early in the morning when it’s quiet and the thought of going somewhere new that I don’t know can put me in a real panic. And public transport is a nightmare. I need to sit near an exit so i know i can get off if i need to. I take medication for it but it boils down to the fact that you have to push yourself to get ou otherwise you can become housebound
I also hate crowded places and shop usually early in the morning when it’s quiet and the thought of going somewhere new that I don’t know can put me in a real panic. And public transport is a nightmare. I need to sit near an exit so i know i can get off if i need to. I take medication for it but it boils down to the fact that you have to push yourself to get ou otherwise you can become housebound
Hi Daffy.
I suppose the thing to do is recognise what triggers your anxiety and try to avoid those situations. Fortunately my partner bought a second hand car. Which means we don't have to travel by public transport. But we will be moving to a less expensive area to try and buy a house. Which means further from the city. Which will mean that I will have to use the public transport that's available because I am not allowed to drive. At the moment everything is in walking distance.
 
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