The Psychosis Therapy Project

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Working with psychosis -

Darian Leader on Psychosis introduced by Ajay Khandelwal - YouTube


"Dorothée Bonnigal-Katz, an author, translator and psychoanalyst and the founder of the Psychosis Therapy Project will reflect on the last four years of establishing this ground-breaking project and on why it is of special value today. Dorothée found that many people experiencing psychosis were rarely deemed eligible for individual talk therapy and were often ill-served by antipsychotic medication and short-term therapies. However, her radical model of specialist treatment, with analysts working one-to-one with people over long periods and through crisis, has had remarkable results. Initially based in Islington, the project is now expanding to South London in the hope of becoming a London-wide service. Please come and be part of it and join us for the launch of the South London Psychosis Therapy Project."

Can Psychoanalysis treat Psychosis? : South London Psychosis Therapy Project Launch Tickets, Sat, 25 Feb 2017 at 14:00 | Eventbrite
 
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thank you for posting this CPU. I've only watched the first video so far. It is a very interesting talk which really resonated with me. I have often over the years of my madness returned to the question of why does my grief need a witness. It seems to be something i desperately crave yet am unable to find due to my very nature. His conclusion of the therapist being like a secretary for the person in psychosis sounded really useful. Our experiences are not nothing but no-one will engage with us. Even on here quite often. I have had some psychosis CBT on the NHS and all it seemed to offer was tips on how to pass in life as normal, how to survive normally. And even forgetting the fact that it does not seem to be possible for me, it is something that is meaningless for me, i don't want to appear normal, i want to feel some sense of peace within myself no matter how i appear.
 
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I have often over the years of my madness returned to the question of why does my grief need a witness. It seems to be something i desperately crave yet am unable to find due to my very nature. His conclusion of the therapist being like a secretary for the person in psychosis sounded really useful. Our experiences are not nothing but no-one will engage with us. Even on here quite often. I have had some psychosis CBT on the NHS and all it seemed to offer was tips on how to pass in life as normal, how to survive normally. And even forgetting the fact that it does not seem to be possible for me, it is something that is meaningless for me, i don't want to appear normal, i want to feel some sense of peace within myself no matter how i appear.
Thank you, & yes it's the same for me.

In my day to day life, if i don't discuss any of my experiences & inner world i do appear to be & pass as very 'normal'. In many ways i suppose that i am, & i can't discount that there has been a lot of progress. My overall functioning & ability to cope with things has also been very effected by everything that i have been through.

i also don't know why our experiences can't be deeply listened to, genuinely acknowledged & validated, & allowed to be worked with & through. It's like we have some kind of highly contagious leprosy. i've found that generally other people don't want to understand or listen to it all, they continually project all their own stuff onto it all, & make continual suggestions. It is maddening in itself.

In a certain sense mental health treatment has generally imo got worse & worse, as well as some aspects getting a little better.

Primarily i have been & am my own therapist. i can't find what i feel is genuinely appropriate & suitable psychological help / support for it all. i can't find a genuine & deep understanding for it all. i can't seem to find anyone that will deeply listen to it all & validate it all. It's all also at a stage now where i'm Not sure that there is any way of finding a deeper resolution, meaning, sense & answer to it all. That's also Not to discount some of the people whom i have chatted with on-line, friends, family & other people whom i have worked with. But finding a 'professional' therapist / psychologist to really work through things with i have found impossible. Part of me has given up with it all. i just don't go into everything in the same way any more.
 
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Thank you, & yes it's the same for me.

In my day to day life, if i don't discuss any of my experiences & inner world i do appear to be & pass as very 'normal'. In many ways i suppose that i am, & i can't discount that there has been a lot of progress. My overall functioning & ability to cope with things has also been very effected by everything that i have been through.

i also don't know why our experiences can't be deeply listened to, genuinely acknowledged & validated, & allowed to be worked with & through. It's like we have some kind of highly contagious leprosy. i've found that generally other people don't want to understand or listen to it all, they continually project all their own stuff onto it all, & make continual suggestions. It is maddening in itself.

In a certain sense mental health treatment has generally imo got worse & worse, as well as some aspects getting a little better.

Primarily i have been & am my own therapist. i can't find what i feel is genuinely appropriate & suitable psychological help / support for it all. i can't find a genuine & deep understanding for it all. i can't seem to find anyone that will deeply listen to it all & validate it all. It's all also at a stage now where i'm Not sure that there is any way of finding a deeper resolution, meaning, sense & answer to it all. That's also Not to discount some of the people whom i have chatted with on-line, friends, family & other people whom i have worked with. But finding a 'professional' therapist / psychologist to really work through things with i have found impossible. Part of me has given up with it all. i just don't go into everything in the same way any more.
Yes, i think it really unnerves people and is difficult to respond too so the best we get is suggestions to go see a doctor quite often. I haven't tried talking about it much outside of here and with the professionals because i feel so ashamed and uncomfortable with it myself, so i guess i don't really blame others for not knowing what to do with it. Culturally psychosis is just not spoken of apart from in the context of murderers so I guess it is not surprising it is this way.

Taking the attitude of being your own therapist sounds like a good survival strategy. I'm sorry you've never received proper help or been able to work through it all. It's just crap
 
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Yes, i think it really unnerves people and is difficult to respond too so the best we get is suggestions to go see a doctor quite often. I haven't tried talking about it much outside of here and with the professionals because i feel so ashamed and uncomfortable with it myself, so i guess i don't really blame others for not knowing what to do with it. Culturally psychosis is just not spoken of apart from in the context of murderers so I guess it is not surprising it is this way.

Taking the attitude of being your own therapist sounds like a good survival strategy. I'm sorry you've never received proper help or been able to work through it all. It's just crap
It is very difficult to deal with & come to terms with some of what goes on with it all.

i've just felt partly stuck in an endless catch 22 the past 12 years - stuck on the medication, with a degree of stability, But Not really more fully resolving things.

i can't negate the help / support i have had & do have from family & friends. It's more i feel the problem in the way the society / system is, the complexities of everything that has gone on, the lack of access to more comprehensive understandings & approaches to everything. The focus on the biomedical, diagnosis & medication.

Yea the general attitudes to a diagnosis / classification of psychosis / schizophrenia isn't good, But i suppose in part it's understandable. There has been moments within severe psychosis where my behaviour has been very frightening to those around me & totally out of control, in the past resulting in 4 sections / forced hospitalisations. There are a small percentage of people experiencing psychosis who are severely violent. i can see more all the different perspectives to these areas. i do also however feel that there could be more of a focus on more humane approaches to people in psychosis & more of an emphasis on psychological & social help / support, But that all comes back to the ways the society / system is & the way it is all designed & operates. i think it's a difficult question from all positions, as to what is best for the individual going through it all, & how best as a society we approach mental health. Different people all have very different views & opinions on all these areas.