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The argument of do people really care

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Do they really care. They always have some new treatment, the best they have out. It was labotomies at one point or being burned. Just how we get this treatment then we are supposed to be greatful get off our arse and live life to the fullest. Excuse me but with this injection in my arse and a possible transformation interupted how the hell can I do that. The positive thing is is that we just pop up so they will never be rid of us even though that is what they secretly want.
 
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Do they really care. They always have some new treatment, the best they have out. It was labotomies at one point or being burned. Just how we get this treatment then we are supposed to be greatful get off our arse and live life to the fullest. Excuse me but with this injection in my arse and a possible transformation interupted how the hell can I do that. The positive thing is is that we just pop up so they will never be rid of us even though that is what they secretly want.
The system/treatment as a whole - It's largely a load of barbaric crap imo. Not to say that there aren't some good, kind & caring people in it & trying to change it all, there are.

But we have a problem, that is the system/treatment. Genuine & comprehensive understandings/alternatives are largely ridiculed, denied, suppressed, attacked, excluded, ignored & otherwise negated/rejected, Not just by the system/society, but also ironically & sadly also by the majority of 'service users'/sufferers/experiences, which is some trick. In fact a lot of the mental health community are now some of the biggest supporters/defenders of the biomedical system.

http://www.mentalhealthforum.net/forum/thread129808.html#post1278985
 
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Problem is is that you get worse with these treatments imo as time goes by. Then you have the bollocks the psychiatrists give of how it's this big bad thing not to treat an illness straight away. People are just kidding themselves when their under treatment and I say don't think about how bad you are now but go back to that first episode before you got your head fucked. I find myself really hating psychiatry and thats why I will never recover. Some of my last halucinations to me was how my psychiatrist thinks my brains will taste like apple ice.
 
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The big question is is that are they hallucinations or real. It wouldn't surprise me if they were selecting which ones of us they want to pick off. They have one evil history after all.
 
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The big question is is that are they hallucinations or real. It wouldn't surprise me if they were selecting which ones of us they want to pick off. They have one evil history after all.
Who knows? The vast majority of people don't agree/don't see it - it's all symptoms of our illness. This system/society & psychiatry is the best there is & everyone is doing the best they can, & none of it is that bad.
 
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Agree to disagree. A can't see the full picture at the moment but it's these hardcore psychiatrists. They probably keep low profiles. Psychiatry is a cancer on the earth and everyone thinks it's here to perform some type of miracle. Do they honestly give a shit if they had their complete way it will be experimenting on the people themselves ill or not ill.
 
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I asked them to shoot me last time I was in the hospital rather than take this shit. Just bloody blanked out all the time.
 
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I asked them to shoot me last time I was in the hospital rather than take this shit. Just bloody blanked out all the time.
You have been bitten by the machine, as i was. As hard as it is, play the game, be the good little patient, tell them how ill you have been, agree with them all & tell them what they want to hear, say how much they have all helped you & how much better you feel & how well your doing, & plan your escape route. You'll never beat the system, & you'll never get them to see it from your perspective, nor the majority of the rest of society. Best you can hope for is to somehow manage outside of it all in some way, that is Not easy, but there are plenty of people that have/do.

It won't all change in our lifetimes, & Not likely to this side of the year 2200.
 
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It's a difficult situation, insane people on both sides.
 
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You have been bitten by the machine, as i was. As hard as it is, play the game, be the good little patient, tell them how ill you have been, agree with them all & tell them what they want to hear, say how much they have all helped you & how much better you feel & how well your doing, & plan your escape route. You'll never beat the system, & you'll never get them to see it from your perspective, nor the majority of the rest of society. Best you can hope for is to somehow manage outside of it all in some way, that is Not easy, but there are plenty of people that have/do.

It won't all change in our lifetimes, & Not likely to this side of the year 2200.
In our lifetimes? It probably won't change or shift until the Sun goes supernova lol :meanie:
 
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Fuck no people don't care, they only imagine that they do.

If people cared there would be no debating and more problem solving, nothing would be about getting what you want and more about getting what is good for people.

But hey what else would happen with a planet of kids right? Just young little dumb shits all of us.
 
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I hate that mental health workers pretend they care to your face and criticise you behind your back. I accidentally heard someone say something negative about me by complete accident, which she would never say to my face, and no other member of staff challenged her. So, yes, it's all for show, and is just a job. I do feel if you don't have any empathy for people with mental health issues you shouldn't work with them. It's just a job for so many people and it should not be. Maybe only people with or who had mental health issues should do these jobs? At least they probably would not be so judging of their clients.

It's this idea that they know best, and you are a child that needs to be guided, that annoys me. If you're mentally ill you need to be controlled. In a subtle way, of course. It is more manipulation, than overt control. I'm not talking about psychiatrists here, just nurses or people who work in general with those with mental health problems. Psychiatrists are about control, but nurses and others are manipulative. I suppose if you are seen as children this doesn't seem so bad. People who need to be morally educated. They think we have no morals, and need to be guided to a more wholesome path. We are lazy. We are stupid. We are bad. All things I have picked up from their attitude. And don't start on benefit scrounging. So don't ever be fooled into believing they care, because they don't.
 
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