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Take medication or get sectioned

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kurotoao

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I was given an ultimatum to either take my medication of I'll have to get sectioned.

It's not fair that I'm being forced to take medication and cannot refuse. If I was at the hospital or doctors I'll be able to have the right to refuse.

Can anybody tell the the process of being sectioned or Their experience (especially if you're from the UK, but every experience is welcome).

I want to know my rights. Are there. Any websites or information about this?
 
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Hi,

Sorry you are in this position.

They can't actually section you for refusing meds per se, but if they feel your health is deteriorating as a result to an extent that warrants hospital treatment.

They will have to do a Mental Health Act assessment with 3 professionals agreeing you need to be detained in hospital.

If you are sectioned then yes they can force you to take meds under the MHA and also they can discharge you under a Community Treatment Order which would mean you have to take medication in the community or be re-admitted.

You might want to contact your local mental health advocacy service to find out more about this. It may be better for you to meet with the care team with an advocate present and explain your reasons for not wanting medication and see if you can come to some sort of compromise.

I've been sectioned and it's not pleasant, but I agree having an ultimatum like that is really infuriating. I'd avoid hospital if you can, but that's just my perspective.


Here are some links you might find helpful from the Mind website.


Mind - Legal rights

Mind - Can I avoid being sectioned?

Hope this helps.
 
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I can't add anything to the two posts you have received, but would endorse their advice.

I really hope you can work out a compromise and be listened to. An advocate is the best way to ensure that this happens IMO. I agree with Toasted Crumpet about approaching things in this way if you can organise one at short notice.

If you google "advocacy" or "mental health advocacy" in your area, a list of contacts should come up. Alternatively MIND's helpline could help. I would act pretty quickly if I was you, and try to get an advocate as an emergency before they act.

Are the drugs injectable or pills? Pills you can accept and then think about whilst you get an advocate and then go back to them saying you want to re-think now that you know your rights and have read up about the drug. This might buy you some time, although you may have to tell a few white lies. An injectable will obviously be administered on the spot and it will be more difficult to put off. Something to think about.

I should get on the phone now and organise an advocate.
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Thank you all for the replies and the links. They were very helpful.

I care co-ordinator came today with a prescription. So I've decided to take it but oh how I want to rip it.
 
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Glad you decided to take your meds xx
 
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This is a constant fear many of us live with; I am terrified of being committed (sectioned) against my will. Because of this, I take my meds faithfully and automatically; have to admit, though, they do help.
 
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I'm in a similar situation. I don't like the meds and don't want to take them. I have heard of the same things being said to other people as being said to you so I am just lying to them telling them I still take the medication if they ask. I recommend you do the same only if you feel you can go without the meds. But at the end of the day whats the harm? Take meds non stop for the rest of your life or try something different since the meds suck. If you have been out of hospital a good few years its unlikely they will put you on a community treatment order. Got to remember no doctor knows how you feel and just because they are a psychiatrist doesn't mean they know what could be the perfect way for you. Fuck'em just prepare for your illness to hit and if you fail take it as a learning curve for future attempts. Your best interests they don't have at heart.
 
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I was given an ultimatum to either take my medication of I'll have to get sectioned.

It's not fair that I'm being forced to take medication and cannot refuse. If I was at the hospital or doctors I'll be able to have the right to refuse.

Can anybody tell the the process of being sectioned or Their experience (especially if you're from the UK, but every experience is welcome).

I want to know my rights. Are there. Any websites or information about this?
Why are they threatening to section you? What are they concerned about? What have you said or done in the past that leads them to threaten drastic action? I have never been threatened with loss of freedom when the situation didn't warrant it myself.
 
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Why are they threatening to section you? What are they concerned about? What have you said or done in the past that leads them to threaten drastic action? I have never been threatened with loss of freedom when the situation didn't warrant it myself.
Well it was my care co-ordinator was the one who mentioned sectioning when I refused to take the medication. The psychiatrist didn't mention it. He was just asking questions. Other than stopping my medication I haven't done anything else. They are concerned as they are saying my symptoms have come back.
 
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They are concerned as they are saying my symptoms have come back.
But are you a danger to yourself or others? That should be the only criteria re sectioning.
Return of symptoms by itself should not be grounds for such threats.
 
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But are you a danger to yourself or others? That should be the only criteria re sectioning.
Return of symptoms by itself should not be grounds for such threats.
They think I an I guess I don't know.
 
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But are you a danger to yourself or others? That should be the only criteria re sectioning.
Return of symptoms by itself should not be grounds for such threats.
My understanding of the Mental Health Act in the UK is that they can section if they can demonstrate that someone's health has deteriorated and warrants treatment in hospital regardless of whether they are a danger to themselves or others. They can also apply the danger to self very loosely.

Having said that, they can't section just because someone isn't taking meds - there has to have been a change in their health. So if you are functioning ok without medication, and there hasn't been a change for the worse in your health, they can't section you. And they shouldn't then be threatening to purely because you refuse meds.
 
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it's partly the threat of been sectioned that gets me to take my meds also in my area i can't afford to make myself vulnerable and lose what i've gained then theres the issue of the people i've seen refusing meds, the damage they've done to themselves and those around them
 
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