Apo said:"As far as I can gather - you haven't really tripped. I don't think you are at liberty to discuss what a proper hallucinogenic trip is really like."
LOL - It isn't bait, & nor is it patronising or silly. It is I would consider an honest & accurate observation & very valid & pertinent question.Zwish said:That is very patronizing and silly thing to say, and I am not going to even raise to that bait.
Oh please Zwish - Absorb what? Psychedelics are good?Zwish said:You do not seem to absorb and I am ending going round and round in circles with you............hah, maybe that is cool, but I would like you to grasp what I mean but you are beginning to say silly things.
I have read synopses of it - I know the type of thing it says - it's one persons opinion. That he was picked to examine the dead sea scrolls is inconsequential. I studied the Bible, by reading it for 4 - 6 hours a day for 4 years. I have subsequently studied much thinking & theology around the Abrahamic religions, as well as some Gnostic & mystical perspectives.Zwish said:You have never even read The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross, and yet call it 'hippy tripe' or whatever. Allegro wasn't even a 'hippy' he was one of a few selcted males with the educational experience (philologist) picked to examine the Dead Sea Scrolls. So please............spare me
To assume that the tree in the garden of Eden is a direct symbol to, & has sole meaning of it being about hallucinogens - I think is very silly.
I have a good friend who is one of only very few people qualified to give opinion on certain ancient Jewish texts. He is fluent in ancient Aramaic. Not many of them about - I would give him a laugh with this - but I think that he would just find it insulting.
I don't own this site, no, far from it. I just see myself as another poster/forum member - no different. I was stating my opinion about your posting; & I would have posted the same things whether I was a moderator or not. The thought of banning you never crossed my mind.Zwish said:Also, it is you who apparently own this site so when you suggest I am being irresponsible talking about psychedelics, excuse me for thinking there is a power thing going on---------?? I have been kicked off too many forums to mention without even THAT 'warning'. if you didn't mean that then sorry for mis-judging your intentions
I was being ironic - I have no opinion one way or the other if people take drugs or not. I would rather that people didn't, but that is their choice. I won't go over what I have posted already. I think I have made my points clearly in relation to all this. I wasn't suggesting that people take large doses very often - I was suggesting that you did.Zwish said:Again, tis you --ironically--suggesting people take very large doses very often....? When I tell you I haven't had psychedelic experience in 3 years you are almost tellin me off...
I haven't seen any of that evidence from what you have posted!???Zwish said:I am sorry, like I have said before, that you had a bad time with psychedelics, but take responsibility for your own actions and don't impose them on everyone else. I have pointed you to evidence that there is VAST potential for very good results. But I do not recommend recreational Tripping!! Hope I have made that clear!
& as I have already stated before - I didn't have a bad time with psychedelics! - I concluded that they are a dead end!
What is recreational Tripping? As opposed to your 'Serious' Tripping? Do you get dressed in robes? Or paint yourself Blue & dance around a Fire? I don't see the distinction? Can you explain this please.
Candidly - No - I don't think that you have made anything clear in how people should safely take drugs, & that is partly the reason why I have posted what I have done. We can debate how much is 'VAST potential for very good results' - because I certainly wouldn't agree with that at all.
There are very obvious dangers to these substances - dangers that I think you are all too aware - & is largely evidenced in the reason that you have stopped taking drugs, & have only taken them very tentatively & in very very tiny amounts.