Schizoid personality test ;)

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I scored 23 too. No disorder.

Interesting. Considering I was at one stage diagnosed with a personality disorder. Yet I have never actually exhibited any of the main diagnostic criteria. They did decide that I had it on a flimsy and arbitrarily decided bunch of evidence though.
 
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thanks everyone! This is rather interesting as I was under the impression I had bpd but also showing traits of schizoid too. To be honest I did not actually know anything about it until today and still patiently awaiting my 'official diognosis' interested in seeing some other peoples scores that have it too. I do feel after reading about it I fit alot of symptoms I felt were just from bpd but it now seems oh so clear lol
 
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Yes I was told I had BPD before I was diagnosed as a depressed schizophrenic - pretty big leap huh?

The main symptoms of BPD are:

Impaired Emotional Control: excessive, poorly regulated emotional responses, especially anger, that change rapidly;

Harmful Impulsivity: impulsive behaviors that are harmful to you or to others, such as spending sprees, excessive use of alcohol or drugs, self-injurious acts, physically aggressive acts and sexual indiscretions;

Impaired Perceptions and Reasoning: suspiciousness, misperceptions, an unstable self-image, a poor sense of your identity, and difficulty in reasoning under stress; and

Disrupted Relationships: tumultuous relationships with a person close to you that vary from extreme fear of abandonment to episodes of excessive anger and the desire to get away from that person.

I do not have impaired emotional control. Yes I get angry sometimes but no more than an "average" person would. I've never hit or punched anybody for instance. Harmful impulsivity - (I have self harmed but it was not an impulsive or superficial act, more an act I carried out after a lot of deliberation and upset when voices were urging me to). I am not promiscuous (have had 2 sexual partners), and a long term relationship. I don't overspend, I don't use alcohol excessively on a regular basis and I have never used drugs. I'm also not violent or sexually dis-inhibited. Impaired perceptions, I have had yes, but they fall under the psychotic category, (if we're using labels now) as I don't think that believing the devil has reincarnated himself in your body for the sole purpose of taking you to hell would fall under a BPD - esque belief, and I don't have disruptive relationships, at least not to any excessive degree, i.e. no more than is NORMAL.

By these rules half of all 21 year olds in Britain fall under the "personality disordered" label. I think I do pretty well compared to them.

I believe the reasons I got diagnosed with this were;

- I had repeatedly overdosed after months of torment from voices and virtually no intervention or help from services.

- I am a "difficult" patient. I ask questions, I refuse medication, and I'm quite outspoken when I feel like it. So what though? Non-compliance has now been made pathological. Anyhow, how can a personality be disordered? Is it some kind of entity that can become dis-regulated? Also this diagnosis assumes that everybody's personality should conform to some sort of norm whereby certain traits do not exist or co-exist as that would constitute a disorder. So can we start saying that a person who is very loud, verbose, obnoxious and arrogant is disordered now because we as a society deplore those traits?
 
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Hugs! And thank you so much for your help :)
See this is why I am half/half on the situation.

Impaired emotional control.
I would say, in a way, yes? I have a constant change of my emotions, I think yes, im going to do this and this is all that matters/is important to me, then over night, not interested any more.
I have a problem with staying 'excited' with relationships and friends and am constantly loosing an idea of who I am or what I want (career changes over night, want to be a mother, dont want to be, want my bf to propose, dont want to marry him any more, love my life, want to run away ect)

Harmful impulsivity.
I take drugs every weekend, I drink, I smoke, I hate sex but want to be single just to be 'sexy again', I sometimes self harm still, I steal, I have had my one bf for 3 years now but prior was terrible with sexual partners as I would do would do anything to feel loved or needed.

Impaired perceptions.
I guess alot of these I put under the first one, but same same, I have no idea who I am or what I want.

Disrupted relationships.
Fear of abandonment (daddy issues) friends that have passed away in large numbers I guess I dont want to make close friendships because I know they will leave me, I quite often run away from relationships and purposly try to savotage them in order to make them leave me (although it isnt what I want)

Alot of this sounds like bpd to me and thers are different issues not mentioned that make me beleive I am schizoid (i hate sex, hate being touched, like to be alone, aunty is schizophrenic and apparently that can be a facter. The list goes on but my fingers are getting sore haha any input would be greatly appriciated as docs are pissing me off atm!
 
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my results say I have no personality disorder.
 
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I scored 23 for SPD... I'm not surprised; I'm way too needy, too interested in people, and both emotionally and physically too expressive to fit with that diagnosis. I can be very cold and distant at times, but only when I feel threatened; it's an emergency defense mechanism rather than my default way of existing. I also like a fair bit of time to myself to do my own thing, but after too long I start to feel lonely and vulnerable and to be honest start to feel reality 'slip' if I become detached from real people in the real world.

I found what Coldwater wrote about BPD and half of all British 21 year olds coming under that label going by the established diagnostic critera to be interesting, mainly in that one of the stereotypes about BPD is that sufferers are 'immature' and/or 'scared of growing up' (or even unable to) - the difference effectively seems to be that it becomes an 'illness' once you're deemed to be too chronologically old to display such feelings and behaviours. I think the most succinctly evocative description of BPD I've ever read is that sufferers are 'eternal teenagers', as that very much resonates with my experience of adulthood. For me though that manifests itself in two ways; there's the emotional, temperamental component, which is the most obvious and externally noticeable symptoms, but there's also a feeling of not being a proper adult, and therefore feeling lost in the adult world... not only do I lack a place in it, but I don't even know what I want that place to be. It's a frightening and confusing way to live. I'm also so scared of rejection and abandonment that I only very rarely try to initiate relationships (we're talking once every couple of years or so, and even then only usually with someone I already know, and generally not until I feel completely backed into a corner that my only escape from is the truth), despite innately craving intimacy... this impacts upon my friendships as just the concept of my friends having something I want and them finding it easier to get that thing can make me jealous (and I can be awful if I go out with a single friend and someone takes a shine to them but not me), and feeling like I'm second-rate in comparison to partners can also provoke envy and consequent temper outbursts.

Heh... I'm 35, but looking back on that last paragraph I could easily have been writing about someone half my age.
 
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Well I think a lot of people have certain inclinations in their character to take drugs, abuse alcohol, or have sex a lot. Those in themselves are not indicators of an "illness" or "disorder" per se. However, it's when all that is coupled with self harming that it becomes BPD, because the self harming is the only thing that the mental health services can really scoop you up on. They can say that you have an illness because you self harm persistently. Having thought about this a lot though, I think about it the "other way round"... for instance, a person may have a higher propensity to self harm because they take drugs, abuse alcohol, or have low self worth that leads to them having multiple partners. I don't think all this, collectivized, is BPD, I think people miss the point that low self worth, addiction issues, poor relationships, and emotional immaturity can stem from childhood trauma and exposure to such things, thus now you see how they point the finger at the "disorder" when it arises. I do think, without the slightest bit of disrespect to you, that there are a lot of fucked up people who unfortunately get slammed with this label. But think of all the people living on the poverty line in Britain, who have very unstable and often traumatic lives, who do all these things. It's not a pathological problem, it's an example of the human condition, and they are spreading this "diagnosis" to everyone - not just the very traumatized and disadvantaged - housewives, party animals, teenage girls (and teenagers in general) who are struggling and or happen to enjoy themselves a bit too much.
 
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Negative for schizoid-25 but did the other personality tests and scored a yes for avoidant/borderline/paranoid/and schizotypal.
 
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Well I think a lot of people have certain inclinations in their character to take drugs, abuse alcohol, or have sex a lot. Those in themselves are not indicators of an "illness" or "disorder" per se. However, it's when all that is coupled with self harming that it becomes BPD, because the self harming is the only thing that the mental health services can really scoop you up on. They can say that you have an illness because you self harm persistently. Having thought about this a lot though, I think about it the "other way round"... for instance, a person may have a higher propensity to self harm because they take drugs, abuse alcohol, or have low self worth that leads to them having multiple partners. I don't think all this, collectivized, is BPD, I think people miss the point that low self worth, addiction issues, poor relationships, and emotional immaturity can stem from childhood trauma and exposure to such things, thus now you see how they point the finger at the "disorder" when it arises. I do think, without the slightest bit of disrespect to you, that there are a lot of fucked up people who unfortunately get slammed with this label. But think of all the people living on the poverty line in Britain, who have very unstable and often traumatic lives, who do all these things. It's not a pathological problem, it's an example of the human condition, and they are spreading this "diagnosis" to everyone - not just the very traumatized and disadvantaged - housewives, party animals, teenage girls (and teenagers in general) who are struggling and or happen to enjoy themselves a bit too much.
What you've described there is very interesting... it goes with the perception I've long had that while the DSM criteria (whatever you might think of that publication) states that all the nine symptoms of BPD are effectively 'equal' - and therefore any five of those nine should be enough for a positive diagnosis - doctors seem to place a special emphasis on impulsive behaviour and suicidal tendencies. Given how the former of those is also associated with bipolar disorder, I'm starting to see a possible reason as to why there seems to be a fair amount of misdiagnosis between the two conditions, and in both directions.

I've been told more than once that I couldn't have BPD because I don't have major issues with the those two criteria - no matter (up until recently) that I struggle with six of the remaining seven criteria; before my latest specialist there was little interest in these other symptoms, even though several of them constitute my biggest issues and aren't major components of any other major psychiatric disorder that I'm aware of (and I've done a fair bit of research).

There is a body of work out there which suggests various external influences upon the likelihood of mental illness - early trauma, family problems, socio-political factors such as poverty - but too many high-ups are too heavily invested in the medical model for them to see beyond it. Financially, the model dominates through the power it can buy in both governments and psychiatric organisations, but it also dominates ideologically because not only does social causation of mental illness cast doubt upon just how wonderful and rewarding and fulfilling and equal that contemporary Western society is, but it also threatens that cornerpiece of post-financial crisis societal discourse: that pseudo-religious form of 'self-responsibility' culture, beloved by the government and the right-wing media, which is built on the foundations of the just-world fallacy.

I've long had the impression that BPD is basically a dumping ground diagnosis for patients who are a pain in the backside... to some doctors, at least. The funny thing is that, to my knowledge, there seems to be a very polarised attitude towards it in professionals... some people seem to feel that it's dished out willy-nilly to people, seemingly with the major diagnostic criteria simply being that they keep coming back and have started to pi*s the doctor off in some way, while other things I've read over the years indicate that a lot of specialists seem to be very cautious about diagnosing it. I know that in the real world I've personally known other people with pretty much everything except a personality disorder, BPD or otherwise, so I've never felt it to be overdiagnosed or too easily diagnosed... not in the admittedly few places I've ever lived, anyway.

Getting the label didn't bother me in the end... I was taking the kind of negative judgements from other people that are commonly applied to people with BPD long before I was diagnosed with it, so in a practical sense it hasn't made any difference - in fact, it was reading about how people with BPD are often perceived by others which first led me to wonder if perhaps it was my real problem.