schitzophrenia and work

[ramboghettouk]

i've had a sleepless night benefit bashing like how i can work but sit on my arse claiming benefits and how i'm prepared to ponce of the state and in some countrys i wouldn't get a penny

well i hear the same about families on benefits, i did live in that area i still find it hard to forgive those families, faza you've made me think of my schitzoprenic friends with kids and how the language i've used hurts them

on that estate the social worker phoned he said did you say you were going to kill yourself, he said he was nervous as 3 people had commited suicide in the past month. i saw the funerals, they were families on benefits

as one women put it save your vitriol for the rich people avoiding taxes etc

 

[fazza]

ive got a GCSE in psychology actually Fazza
and I remember there are different kinds of ethics
yours would be the stoical kind I think
while some people are more on the care ethics

a theory could be posed
that you are overlooking the care ethics

I think sometimes this sick person should not be working
and then taking out his/her illness
on those who are unable to work

who have put their back into it
and broken down in the attempt
and from the lack of support for their condition

and from their attempts to care for their peers

Wow great a gcse in psychology. Thanks for posting that. I have a gcse in physics French and biology English lit and language geography history and chemistry.
Oh and for the record I national deploma in horticulture and arboriculture.

Now that we have our educational credentials out of the way. Can you please explain why of my statements of how the in flexability of the benefits system or why you can't work when you are well and not work when you are ill so offensive.

I repeat what I say again.
The benefits system should allow more flexability to allow those who float in and out of work due to illness.

This would provide more of an incentive to work.

I said nothing about caring for others.
However I do believe that carers allowance is available and you can work whilst receiving this allowance.

If I have offended you then I don't really see how.

I am free to discuss my work ethic on an open forum and if you wish to discuss the armchair psychology of my believes then please make sure you have the necessary credentials to discuss my thoughts.

Work has been proven time and time again to help both social isolation and mental wellbeing. However I agree that forced work has the opposite effect.

Also my thoughts on other countries benefit systems are accurate and my belief is that whatever we get from this government is a blessing compared to massive waiting times for benefits in other countries to even to receiving nothing in other countries.

Thanks for the insight in to my thoughts.

Have a good evening.

Oh once again for the record.
Work when you can
Don't work when you are ill.

Really can't see the harm in that statement what so ever.

 

[Zoe1]

I am free to discuss my work ethic on an open forum and if you wish to discuss the armchair psychology of my believes then please make sure you have the necessary credentials to discuss my thoughts.

this is a mental health forum
I dont need to have any credentials
to discuss your post with you

 

[fazza]

this is a mental health forum
I dont need to have any credentials
to discuss your post with you

This is a mental health forum. If you question the psychology of a member with the credentials of a GCSE in psychology then I think you will find it was you that stated your credentials first.
Otherwise try sticking to the topic.
Of schizophrenia and work and not
The psychology of a member with strong work ethical values.

 

[Zoe1]

I feel that you are speaking to me
with an imperial tone
laying down the law of how I should be speaking to you

and this is not even the debating chamber !

 

[fazza]

Not laying down the law at all. I was just stating my views about work then you pop up with your GCSE reference about my psychology and references to something that I didn't even refer to ie not working due to caring for others.

If you think this is an imperialistic approach to yourself then sorry but I find your post especially with a reference to your GCSE qualification in psychology patronising.

 

[ramboghettouk]

thing is whether your ill or fit for work is not been decided by doctors, i agree in some ways but work when your well only to have that having worked held against you when your ill in practice

 

[ramboghettouk]

i've got a psychology degree think the word is projection common in schitzo illnesses

 

[ramboghettouk]

fazza when i say i don't want to work, this is not an ideal world, what work i may be capable off would put me into difficulties with the benefit system, off course if your a tory politician you'll say thats why it needs reforming when by reform you mean cuts and possibly further unfairness in the benefit system

you have to face the unfairness of a system that stigmatises those on benefits with the further stigma of been a family on benefits

 

[fazza]

What?????
How can working when you feel well enough to work be held against you.

I have stated that we need a more flexable benefit system many times now but this part of my statement is continuing to be ignored.

 

[fazza]

If you are working of course it is going to cause problems with benefits because you are working. Why would you want both?

If you are trying to say it could cause problems when returning to benefits if because you become too sick to work then I agree. The system needs modifying to allow for such events like these

 

[fazza]

i've got a psychology degree think the word is projection common in schitzo illnesses

Well I am glad you didn't pay tuition rambo because the quote you just used could be found in a fortune cookie.

I also suggest you do not make anymore armchair psychology analysis of what I state in my posts.
You would not like it if I were to analyse the contents of your posts one bit

 

[ramboghettouk]

have you a job for me and what job do you suggest?

 

[ramboghettouk]

If you are working of course it is going to cause problems with benefits because you are working. Why would you want both?

If you are trying to say it could cause problems when returning to benefits if because you become too sick to work then I agree. The system needs modifying to allow for such events like these

they've been modifying the system for decades on the grounds of what you and maybe i could say what is the reality rising homelessness women on universal credit selling they're bodies, modifying is been used as an excuse for cuts, whether you'd like it if there is no welfare state

your on both when your working with your tax credits

 

[ramboghettouk]

Well I am glad you didn't pay tuition rambo because the quote you just used could be found in a fortune cookie.

I also suggest you do not make anymore armchair psychology analysis of what I state in my posts.
You would not like it if I were to analyse the contents of your posts one bit

you wouldn't like it if i repeated some of the comments about people having large families i've heard my armchair psychology says that insecurity is at the heart of your comments and oh yes i have mine