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Blaupraust

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Hi guys, just signed up today because I feel It might be useful to have somewhere to chat to people who may be going through similar feelings. I’m an artist from Leeds, recently reached a point where I felt I had to go and see a doctor to discuss how I was feeling. After a very basic textbook appointment, I was prescribed sertraline, and given some links. I feel like this all happened too easily, and none of the underlying issues came to light. I came out of there feeling better about things, somehow.

I haven’t taken any of the medication I was given because I actually think my feelings are a normal response to my current situation and feelings, the thought of losing these emotions and being somehow numbed, doesn’t appeal to me at all. I don’t want to be sad, and do want to deal with things in my life, it’s actually been quite enlightening reading about this too, and how often people are given meds to mask the underlying issues.

I do have high anxiety, palpitations, and often wonder why I’m bothering with life, but I’m not suicidal. Perhaps it’s comforting knowing there is a way out, even though it’s jot something in considering. There’s probably a name for that.
 
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Hi Blaupraust and :welcome:

After a very basic textbook appointment, I was prescribed sertraline, and given some links. I feel like this all happened too easily, and none of the underlying issues came to light.

It is pretty common, because most of the doctors feel comfortable just prescribing some pills to “help people with their problem”. They treat it as if it was a temporary bout of insomnia or a stomach ulcer, with tablets, without necessarily exploring the depth of the problem. It is also a question of money, since the doctor only has a short period to treat his patient.

I haven’t taken any of the medication I was given because I actually think my feelings are a normal response to my current situation and feelings, the thought of losing these emotions and being somehow numbed, doesn’t appeal to me at all. I don’t want to be sad, and do want to deal with things in my life, it’s actually been quite enlightening reading about this too, and how often people are given meds to mask the underlying issues.

I’m glad that you’re getting such a lot out of the contact with the forums. Medicines are often over-prescribed by doctors who think they are being helpful, whereas in fact what’s needed is often some time with a psychologist or some therapy sessions. But it’s like painkillers, taking them can mask the sensations that you need to guide you.
 
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hi and welcome to the forum!

sorry to hear you've been struggling lately
you're definitely not alone, this is a safe space for you to open up when you need to

I agree that numbing emotions is a weird way of trying to cure depression as you end up not feeling sad nor happy
 
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Thanks Kerome,

I absolutely agree that it's mostly down to doctors lacking time (money) to properly deal with such things. I don't know what I expected when I went in there, I think perhaps a little more care or, at least a tiny bit more digging to see if I was suffering something more specific. I do have to go back in a week or so for a 'review' which I guess is to see how i'm getting on with the medication i'm not taking. This will be another opportunity to try to connect a little.

I think perhaps I'm just looking in the wrong place, and this is really something for these forums rather than a doctor checking his watch. I do think I have a good idea of what the issues are, at least with the feelings of despair, the solutions are a little more difficult than taking a pill and 'seeing how it goes'
 
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Blaupraust

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Thank you Melodiousa,

It really is, I think it's just easier than dealing with the core problems. Perhaps easier isn't the word, but I do think there's only so much masking you can do, with the deep down feelings remaining, maybe even worsening.

I like my sadness to some extent, it keeps me feeling alive, just not such an uncontrollable amount for so long.
 
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Candy19

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I agree with Kerome, I think you should seek out a therapist rather than rely on a doctor. A lot of doctors in my experience aren't as well trained in mental health, so they aren't really going to have the knowledge and understanding that a psychologist will. Medication can do so much, but it's still important to be able to talk about things and have someone you can open up to
 
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Blaupraust

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Absolutely, the difference here being, because i'm in the UK, doctors are covered, a psychologist is cost prohibitive, which is why I made that choice. Because my work has suffered a lot due to the feelings leading to a lot more procrastination and distracting myself (or doing nothing) - spending on a mental health expert would have just added a little to the financial side of issues over here.
 
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Your GP can refer you for therapy although the waiting lists can be long or in a lot of areas you can refer yourself through IAPT (Improving Access to Psychological Therapies). Another avenue to try could be through your workplace. Many employers offer counselling and some even offer psychology (mine does) to staff via occupational health. The waiting lists tend to be much shorter than NHS.

Medications can also be very helpful in getting you to a place where you can get the most out of therapy so are worth considering.
 
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Blaupraust

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They didn't refer me but gave me the link to IAPT, I did look into it, but I feel like there are people who would benefit more from it than me, and also I don't want to push anyone in more pain down the list. I'm self employed too so the employer thing is a bust sadly.
 
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Ah sorry, one on the down sides to self employment. Personally I would try IAPT they are aimed at treating people at the less severe end of the scale and won't see people they consider too complex and needing more specialist services. They will also tell you if they don't feel that you need them (apparently I don't need them as I already have enough support through other sources (including my employer and my husband's mental health team).
 
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It's good to know they're there as an option. At this point I don't know though. My wife has severe depression and went through all this a while ago, I saw all the paperwork etc she was given by them. I don't know if the best thing for me would be to have someone to tell me various ways to solve my problems, and what they are. I know why this is happening, and know what would make it better. It's making changes that can fix things that is the problem. It's a complex thing when most of your issues and concerns stem from the world, and the way it's developed to make you feel less and less a part of it, and so alien. I miss dead relatives (normal, and not fixable) I miss the world when it was quieter before smartphones, and I miss community, though I only saw a small part of this. Growing up in one world, and being an adult in what feels like somewhere completely different, is a bizarre thing. The world has changed too much, too quickly. Nobody is prepared for what we've created, not really.
 
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You are right in saying that the world that we live in is changing faster than we can keep up with. It has been for thousands of years and as a species our evolution has been unable to keep up. Our brains automatic response to stress is more suitable for avoiding being eaten by a predatory animal than for dealing with the constant stresses and strains of modern life. For most people there are external pressures/stresses that we can not change. What we can learn to do is to think differently, to make us more resilient to the stresses of modern life, this is what therapies such as CBT and NLP are aimed at.

The IAPT in our area has various different options from 1 to 1 therapy sessions, to educational talks on stress management techniques. It could be that they feel it would be beneficial to look at different strategies to the ones used with your wife so don't let that put you off.
 
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The modern world is hectic and loud. I don't think we fully understand just how much our minds are damaged under the huge amount of pressure of just existing in this new environment. Technology has advanced so rapidly that the world has become a much smaller place with all its problems right at your finger tips via smart phones, tablets and TV.

We are swamped by negative images, news and points of view that our minds absorb day and night. This is not how humans are designed to live. Community is lacking. Social lives rarely involve anything that doesn't involve alcohol.

It's really hard for unwell minds to regain a balance but medication and therapy can help you regain that balance at least for a while. I think you would benefit from something the NHS run called 'community restart'. It promotes community activities with people suffering with mental illness, whether that be short or long term illness. This type of therapy sounds like it might be something you are looking for.

Am I on the right track?

Kind regards
Sparrow
 

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