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Psychiatry ridiculed my religious beliefs breaching my human rights.

Psychiatry have major issues with religious people.
 
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well they believe their own hype that they have the control over mh. i wonder why they exist? have they ever cured anyone? have they improved anyone's life?

i really doesn't surprise me and anyway what about this ...

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast
ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them
under their feet, and turn again and rend you. Matthew 7:6

y0u certainly w0nt find spiritual (by spiritual i mean biblical and n0t new age interpretation 0f spiritual) guidance from these characters they are of the w0rld

be in the world, but not of the world....john 17:14-15
 
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well they believe their own hype that they have the control over mh. i wonder why they exist? have they ever cured anyone? have they improved anyone's life?

i really doesn't surprise me and anyway what about this ...

Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast
ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them
under their feet, and turn again and rend you. Matthew 7:6

y0u certainly w0nt find spiritual (by spiritual i mean biblical and n0t new age interpretation 0f spiritual) guidance from these characters they are of the w0rld

be in the world, but not of the world....john 17:14-15
I have not read much of the bible but believe in God. I have strong convictions. Psychiatry did not share my beliefs.
 
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yeah well what can i say psychiatry. .."dont even go there with them regarding religion". religion is not readily accepted in a lot of spheres of life. and psychiatry is one of them

for me if in doubt leave it out. go to a church instead. you will not find any help in the secular society that we live in is my experience. the road to hell is paved by well meaning folk and ive been up many many many garden paths.
 
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yeah well what can i say psychiatry. .."dont even go there with them regarding religion". religion is not readily accepted in a lot of spheres of life. and psychiatry is one of them

for me if in doubt leave it out. go to a church instead. you will not find any help in the secular society that we live in is my experience. the road to hell is paved by well meaning folk and ive been up many many many garden paths.
Well psychiatry are breaching human rights by not valuing, respecting or embracing my beliefs.
 
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Yes, that is discrimination. But then psychiatrists don't respect their patients. They think we are idiots. They have no empathy towards us. So why would they? If a physically ill patient was religious their views would be respected. Discrimination against people with mental health problems is ubiquitous in the mental health profession and society.:hug1:
 
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I think most psychiatrists try very hard to be seen as 'good medical doctors' by the rest of the profession, and that includes staying well clear of religion. Which is very sad because I think spirituality is key to a lot of mental health problems, I reckon there are many more cases of spiritual crisis than most people think.

But exploring ones religious beliefs can definitely help a lot with mental health. It can redefine how you think about yourself, and with that can come a new freedom.
 
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Psychiatry ridiculed my religious beliefs breaching my human rights.

Psychiatry have major issues with religious people.
Religion & spirituality is a massive area, Not just concerning Christianity.

There is also a serious question concerning religious & spiritual psychopathology in relation to mental health areas.
 
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Religion & spirituality is a massive area, Not just concerning Christianity.

There is also a serious question concerning religious & spiritual psychopathology in relation to mental health areas.
Are you playing devil's advocate Hun, just asking?
 
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Are you playing devil's advocate Hun, just asking?
i'm being logical & rational about it all. Areas of religion, spirituality, philosophy, mythology & everything associated with it all are vast - i've been studying these areas for decades & have only scratched the surface - how is a mental health professional meant to be sensitive to it all? They have No specific training in any of it. & why should they be biased to any one specific religion/belief system? In one week they may be seeing a Wiccan, a Hindu, a Muslim, a Buddhist, someone of a non-religious spiritual persuasion, all of different sects & denominations.

Yes - i'd agree that there should be far more sensitivity & acknowledgement of the spiritual dimensions within psychiatry - But whose spirituality? My idea of the spiritual is very different to a lot of other peoples - & i don't agree with a lot of religion.

There is also the fact the the mentally ill, especially those with more severe illness & psychotic disorders, are often delusional & often have strong religious delusions. i've had religious delusions myself, & a lot of people never resolve it all. Is a psychiatrist meant to collude with it all & encourage it all?
 
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i'm being logical & rational about it all. Areas of religion, spirituality, philosophy, mythology & everything associated with it all are vast - i've been studying these areas for decades & have only scratched the surface - how is a mental health professional meant to be sensitive to it all? They have No specific training in any of it. & why should they be biased to any one specific religion/belief system? In one week they may be seeing a Wiccan, a Hindu, a Muslim, a Buddhist, someone of a non-religious spiritual persuasion, all of different sects & denominations.

Yes - i'd agree that there should be far more sensitivity & acknowledgement of the spiritual dimensions within psychiatry - But whose spirituality? My idea of the spiritual is very different to a lot of other peoples - & i don't agree with a lot of religion.

There is also the fact the the mentally ill, especially those with more severe illness & psychotic disorders, are often delusional & often have strong religious delusions. i've had religious delusions myself, & a lot of people never resolve it all. Is a psychiatrist meant to collude with it all & encourage it all?
Maybe you are studying too much all at once and it conflicts and causes confusion.
 
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Maybe you are studying too much all at once and it conflicts and causes confusion.
For you/others maybe - Not for me thanks, i have a clarity on things that i never had before, & genuine learning/getting informed is important for me, although it may Not be/doesn't seem to be for many others.
 
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For you/others maybe - Not for me thanks, i have a clarity on things that i never had before, & genuine learning/getting informed is important for me, although it may Not be/doesn't seem to be for many others.
My ex partner was like that. He wanted to know about it all but look at it objectively from an outsider view, he didn't believe in any religion.

He didn't believe in spiritual activity either.

Just because you are religious and are having a psychotic episode does not mean that your beliefs are influenced by your psychosis. A psychiatrist tends to assume they are, without taking the time to find out otherwise.

I thought that dead people were talking to me when I was psychotic. I also believed that some people could read my mind. I was told that couldn't happen. Telepathy didn't exist. I don't think that no one anywhere could ever read your mind and how someone can say that without looking into it shows that psychiatry has a narrow mind when it comes to that sort of thing. If 'science' hasn't proved it it can't be true.

Even scientists admit there are things they can't explain. A nurse told me once she had a paranormal experience. So it happens to them too. But if that nurse had been a patient and had told a psychiatrist that she would have been considered mentally ill. It's about the power relationship between the patient and the doctor and the nurse and the doctor. A physically ill person probably wouldn't be considered mentally ill either if they were in hospital and had a paranormal experience there. Physically ill patients have more power than the mentally ill. It's disgusting how the mentally ill are discriminated by the people that are supposed to help them. There is no respect for their views or their experiences in life.

There were too many coincidences when it came to the telepathic belief I had and I am sure some people can read minds. It's just a shame that psychiatry is so narrow minded and prejudiced. xx
 
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