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Relaxation, Then...WHAT?

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So, there I might be, sitting in a darkened, noiseless room. I've learned a method of relaxation and I've just been doing half an hour (or the full hour) of that relaxation. This is my basic question: What use is that relaxation period when I've ended it? What really remains behind that is, in any way, good for me? I can't figure out what the therapeutic benefit/s is/are in such a relaxation system. I'd sincerely like to know.
 
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the relaxation is supposed to stay with you I think
and improve your thinking
if its not doing that, maybe its not enough
you might need some talking therapy as well

because if we have alot of untreated issues going on inside
I dont think they will go away just by relaxing no

have you been offered any talking therapy ?

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Your post brings a smile to my face.
This is exactly how I feel, when I have to do the "relax" thing for 20 minutes.

It is almost as annoying as sitting in a chair in a garden or having to sit in a dumb chair on a beach and do absolutely nothing, just sit there and then what? :confused:
Always makes me super annoyed.

At least my support person says, that if this relaxation / mindfulness thing is not working for me, it is okay not to do it.
So I have stopped doing it.

I can say something though, which might strike most as a little odd, even I find it a little odd.
But rubbing my nose (Ok I should be honest, often "cleaning" my nose :innocent:) seems to bring a purpose into my life and soothes me somewhat sometimes.

That is how succesful I have been in finding relaxing activities to do so far.

Anything else, that clever people have suggested, does not work.
It really just seem to have the opposite effect on me.

Soo maybe just try and clean/pick nose and do it with great pride, hey! maybe it works for you too, I dont know, can try? :rolleyes:
 
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There are many ways to relax. For some people it’s reading, gaming, walking, talking.. this all helps my anxiety.
But if your problems need solving then maybe a better use of time would be to sit down and make a plan of what you are missing and some specific steps on how to improve things. Then start doing them, even just one small step per day. A lot of depression and anxiety is a very very normal reaction caused by unmet needs in life.
 
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While you are in this zone you are giving your brain time to reset. By that I mean the chemicals and pathways (please look this up) Giving it a chance to alter these along with lowering your blood pressure and cortisol. You cant see this of course. but its happening. The more you do, the more you get used to it, like it, rely on it and help your poor ole brain sort itself out.
You need to practice proper breathing too, thats essential.
When we say were going to relax, we dont, its quite difficult at first.
I would say that straight after this zone out you get out into nature as it will reinforce it. Or do something physical, a brisk walk, run, dig something.
 
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All of your replies make sense. I'm a quick-fix jockey and time-taker methods tend to aggravate me. What (I suppose) I'm really saying is...all that relaxation while sitting down and relaxing...is wasted if I'm going to be getting back up, anyway. That's shallow thinking...not very joined up and not very modern. What I should be doing, and it's mentioned, above, is keeping moving and doing relaxation, simultaneously, and that's never occurred to me, before this thread. Mindfulness is probably what I'm really talking about, although I'm a touch fuzzy on what that is really supposed to be. I think I'll investigate Mindfulness, some more.

Another point that I once heard, from a therapist, was that...relaxation triggers the PARASYMPATHETIC nervous system, which then bullies the sympathetic nervous system into behaving with less noise and fuss. If that's true, then I'll do both types of relaxation...moving and stationary. This whole daily living thing...there's far too much to it.
 
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Yes the p.sympathetic takes over which lowers your heart rate, blood pressure, adrenaline, cortisol and so on. Your brain chems get a chance to alter. Its worth trying to find a way to do this.
Breathing exercises are how I tap into it. Some it might be listening to something. Or muscle relaxation.
Once in this state youre giving yourself time off from all the chemicals whizzing about in an anxiety state.
Mindfulness...this does my head in...this buzzword....was once the act of doing things with focus and care. It makes you concentrate on that exact moment. Think how a safe cracker does his/her trick. Or if you got up in the middle of the night and crept downstairs for a brew.
Again it takes you out from the heightened state even if just for long enough to chop an onion with precision.
I put my makeup on like this. Gives me 10 minutes of slower careful thoughtful time.
Perhaps you could do something rather than sitting down but do it 'mindfully'
 
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Just a thought.. I listen to guided meditation before I go to sleep. So as a simple answer to your original question you could do your relaxation before sleep and this should carry a better mood into the next morning after (hopefully) a restful night....
 
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As explained in the meditation mp3 my therapist gave me,you can choose to carry as much as that relaxation with you throughout the day as you want. Just by thinking about what you did during it.

I listened to it so often that just thinking about listening to it relaxed me.

Thanks for this thread. I'm gonna start listening to it every day again, I haven't in awhile.
 
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Maybe, the mind loves that period of relaxation so much, it constructs a movement-included version of it when you think back to one of the most recent previous relaxation sessions. If the relaxation period could be, by just thinking about, "smeared" into other times during your day, that would be helpful. Thanks again, MinnieMoo and SunnyDaze!
 
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Well, the thing coming up on my calendar (work at the house) has backed off until around a month from now. I'm thinking of trying to eat, again. I'm planning to sleep, again. I fully intend to build myself up, resource myself a lot, and engage in many, many 30 minutes periods of relaxation and try to get my life back on some version of a track, after the last 2 months of hellish worry and anxiety, all related to workmen invasion at my home.

What they're going to be doing must be done; I accept and hate that.

I just have an horrendous history with workmen (why is it always men?) at this house and those really terrible experiences date back to the mid 1980s, believe me. All I have to do, now, is perfect a version of relaxation/med', ('Mindfulness', also, regarding house preparations for next month's one day of work.)

I've decided to use preparations for work on the house...AS A THERAPY, itself!

That gives me reduced fears, reduced general anxiety about that day and a chance to soak myself into being mentally ready, on the day. I'll also be back on all doable exercise/s, weight training, stick fight training, general cardio (if I can), etc..

Thanks, to all who replied to me in this thread and made very workable suggestions.
 
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