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Recent Bipolar diagnosis - girlfriend split up with me

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I can say that you will never ricover being on psychiatric drugs because they always develop tolerance. Try William Walsh'es book "Nutrient power: heal your biochemistry and heal your brain". It states the real reason of mental illneses and provides enough information to treat it.
I am sorry to say many, many people would refute what you are saying, myself included. Please do not encourage someone who is not very long diagnosed to make risky decisions. Untreated bipolar can get worse. I respect your opinion but totally do not share your view.
 
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I am sorry to say many, many people would refute what you are saying, myself included. Please do not encourage someone who is not very long diagnosed to make risky decisions. Untreated bipolar can get worse. I respect your opinion but totally do not share your view.
Psychiatrist do not treat mental illnesses because they simply do not understand what causes them. They only help to diminish symptoms. And the book I shared is not an opinion, it is qualified scientific facts. Please first chech what you are oposing and only then share your opinion because you know nothing about Walshes protocal and I'm in remission because of it.
 
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Will you tell me more? I can neither buy the book nor translate it. I also do not approve the drugs for a period longer than a month. What does mood swings mean? That you give yourself courage and are in a good mood for a while, then you see that kovid prevents you from developing and getting depressed? If I were omnipotent, I would just help you realize yourself professionally. Then crises pass for most people.
 
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Psychiatrist do not treat mental illnesses because they simply do not understand what causes them. They only help to diminish symptoms. And the book I shared is not an opinion, it is qualified scientific facts. Please first chech what you are oposing and only then share your opinion because you know nothing about Walshes protocal and I'm in remission because of it.
You are right I know nothing of the protocol but that is NOT my point. My point is you are recommending this to someone who has had his diagnosis for less than one year and whose life seems to be breaking down in front of him. This is not the time to experiment with the treatment plan you are proposing. I am glad you are in remission, however, you think this has been achieved. There is no 'cure' for illnesses such as bipolar and schizophrenia at this time. The same applies to many illnesses, most being a mix of biology and social factors. James {I hope he will not mind me referring to his situation} has had his diagnosis during a Pandemic. There is little by way of face to face assessments and after care going on in the UK at the moment. Additionally many of us know that our diagnosis is changed quite a few times. What I think would make sense for him to do would be to have a discussion with his GP about how he is feeling and what his symptoms are. GP can then write a letter documenting this and asking for James to have a review. Now if someone were secured and assured in their diagnosis, possibly with a good few years of living with it, then there could be a time to opt for another approach. Early days in pandemic situation is not the time.
 
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He must have all the points of view and choose for himself. This is part of freedom of speech. It would be a pleasure for me to hear that someone has mastered their voices, for example, thanks to me. Talking to a psychologist, listening to interviews with psychologists, talking to the mentally ill, my bunch of psychoses, I'm half a psychologist. In my opinion, only time heals love that is gone, and the depression around unemployment - with a new job. In fact, a new love is a cure. In this pandemic time - salesman / warehouse work is the only thing that works for me.
 
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Hi everyone,
I was hoping to find some advice.

I am 32 and have been struggling with heavy depression in spells for the past 5 years, which has been getting worse and worse. I have had no reason to be, amazing girlfriend,family and friends - a very lucky man.

At the end of 2019 I had a really bad patch of extreme mood swings - no sleep , and I was given antidepressants which made me feel sick and worse but told to stick with them so I did.

I started having absent seizures at the beginning of January 2020 and I had to leave my job in March because I couldn’t cope. I lost my license for 12 months and I was put on levitracem for the seizures.

I started my own company 2 weeks later, just before Covid hit and we went into lockdown.
No work and no money.

I was still facing terrible mood swings and heavy depression.

I took myself to hospital in April 2020 as I was extremely manic and spent 5 days in there and didn’t sleep. I still wasn’t diagnosed with bipolar.

I eventually had to go to a private psychiatrist in July 2020 who diagnosed me with Bipolar passing the examination by 100%. I was given Aripiprazole which didn’t agree with me and made me feel sick and more depressed. I was told to go back after 4 weeks to review the medication but I couldn’t afford the follow up meeting. So I kept using it for 3 months until I couldn’t use it anymore and went back to hospital in September.
I was referred to a neuro specialist who changed my mood stabiliser to Limotrogine.
I have been waiting 7 months for my follow up in March, to be reviewed and monitored properly. As I’m still feeling very depressed and erratic.

There have been major delays in treatments the past year because of Covid which I have appreciated and been patient with.

I have been with my girlfriend for 3 years but I have deteriorated dramatically physically and mentally over the past year and a half.
I have had deep depression, unable to drive because of my absent seizures, no work because of Covid and I’ve put a lot of weight on. In between this I lost my job and my close uncle died of cancer.

My girlfriend has broken up with me because she says we want different things.

She doesn’t understand bipolar, depression at all. And her words are I have no drive, motivation, I’m fat.

I have never been Horrible to her and always supported her with everything.
No arguments, shouting, horrible things being said.
I haven’t felt sorry for myself and I have tried to stay positive Through the past year and half.

when she split up with me by phone , I refused to meet her the next day to talk about it and sent her a nice email wishing her the best . I have cut all contact and not spoken to her for a week.

I am obviously really upset because I love her and hurt that she can’t see I’m unwell and in the process of getting better.

I am exhausted by everything and don’t feel I should be having to explain my situation to someone that should love me.

I feel I shouldn’t chase her or beg her but leave her to get on with what she’s got to do.

I don’t want to put my burden on her, and I want to focus on getting better.

Am I doing the right thing ? Or shall I try and get her back ?
Bless you. You should definitely focus on getting better. I think if you told her about your mental health she might understand what your going through any why. I had no clue my husband had bipolar until 4 years after we married and he pushed me away and I nearly walked away from him but once he got better I researched his condition and it made sense. Its been hard and we been married nearly 13 years and I'm 33 now. I think if she knew then maybe you guys can work it out and you still love her. Its nice to have support especially when you suffering from a mental health. I wish you all the best. Alot of people are not aware of mental health so if more people understood it life would be alot easier. Takecare of yourself.
 
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You're always up against it when people don't understand the illness, be it Bipolar as it's whole or just depression on it's own. Some people have had brief encounters with depression so are more understanding, some don't have a clue about it and can't understand it. If people are willing to try and learn about it by reading up and so forth, then fair play, but if they want to cut and run then it tells you that they wouldn't ever be someone to rely on as they'd probably do the same in future episodes. Losing people you love is devastating but ultimately, if you're going to be with someone, it needs to be someone who is with you for everything that is you, and that obviously includes accepting that you have this illness.

I remember hearing something years ago about moving on after a break up, and there's a little bit of spite in it, but the line was "The best revenge is to live well". So get yourself better, get things together, get the weight off eventually and improve all areas of your life for you. But don't do it in the hope that she will see you doing well and will want you back, you don't want someone that only wants you when you're well, but it will allow you to rebuild and hopefully find someone that will be there for the long haul. All the best my friend.
 
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