Quetiapine (seroquel) and cannabis

[healthybrain]

Im a medical marijuana patient and am gathering information about cannabis and Quetiapine. Does anyone have experience with the two and what side effects did they experience?

 

[jajingna]

I'm a medical marijuana patient

Gee, are you sure?

Smoking weed and taking an anti-psychotic pill will have negligible effects on most people. I know this based on no information.

 

[boffin1252]

I'm on quitipine 300mg a day. It works but gives me a dry mouth at night. I have been a little more aggravated whilst on it. Think I know where you are coming from. Perhaps the weed will mellow you out more.

 

[DD040894]

I am also on quetiapine 200mg a day, I have no serious side effect. But I wouldn't reccommend taking marijuana ever, especially not with neuroleptic. Best regards.

 

[HLon99]

Dear healthybrain,

Quetiapine is an antipsychotic with potent sedative effects. I have never personally tried it but I assume that smoking weed whilst on it would make you feel even more sedated.
Also, I understand that you are a medical cannabis user, but if you have a psychiatric disorder like Bipolar its probably not a good idea to smoke weed.

I personally have struggled with substance abuse issues during my struggle with Bipolar disorder including cannabis and I can tell you that smoking weed can definitely trigger mood episodes and worsen psychosis. You should really speak to your main GP about this.

best wishes,
-H

 

[Abstract]

i hope your getting this weed thru some dispensary and not the other. they seem to be everywhere here where i live. it just makes me paranoid to tell you the truth.

 

[healthybrain]

Thanks guys. Cannabis can worsen psychosis iv known that about bipolar, but it doesnt do that. It make me feel happy. I get really good herb from a dispensary thats pure and not the kind that makes you paranoid. Just googled "neuroleptic", cannabis and quetiapine are nerve depressants and would really sedate you. Kinda why I would smoke a few hours at least before taking it. My health care provider knows I smoke and says I can micro dose.

I dont drink do drugs, smoke (cigs) I just want this one vise please am I asking too much? I just want to be happy. A lot of people here have to take drugs to augment their brains to function like the rest of the world. Im no different.

I really appreciate everyones feedback, thanks.

 

[ht46]

I use to be prescribed Quetiapine for prn for schiz it made me very sleepy I use to smoke cannabis but it now makes me paranoid, with cannabis coming down you feel cloudy and tired which my guess would be even more so with Quetiapine as well cannabis and psychosis do not mix which would be my biggest concern. But I know what you mean with wanting to self medicate etc to make you feel good I'm the same it's pretty much always frowned on by professionals self medicating that is. I would suggest if you're going down that track to avoid thc and try and get cbd or what ever I'm not that educated on weed but thc can cause issues with psychosis and consult your dr. My uneducated opinion. But weed can become very habitual and addictive I use to not be able to function or socialise without it and isolated myself getting stoned 247 so don't go down that track even if you are enjoying it your psychosis will be effected it's not worth it. Avoid cannibus all together I reccomend.

 

[HLon99]

Thanks guys. Cannabis can worsen psychosis iv known that about bipolar, but it doesnt do that. It make me feel happy. I get really good herb from a dispensary thats pure and not the kind that makes you paranoid. Just googled "neuroleptic", cannabis and quetiapine are nerve depressants and would really sedate you. Kinda why I would smoke a few hours at least before taking it. My health care provider knows I smoke and says I can micro dose.

I dont drink do drugs, smoke (cigs) I just want this one vise please am I asking too much? I just want to be happy. A lot of people here have to take drugs to augment their brains to function like the rest of the world. Im no different.

I really appreciate everyones feedback, thanks.

Dear healthybrain,

Going from experience, I would strongly advise you to reconsider your position. According to research, Cannabis is second only to amphetamines (speed) in substance induced rates of conversion to psychosis. I have personal experience with this, as I used pot as a crutch to get me through my initial depressive episode, but I had no idea the harm that I was doing to my mental health until it was far too late. Despite your misconceptions there is no such thing as 'safe' pot, especially not for people with serious psychiatric disorders

I think that you recognise the fact you do not take any other substances and applaud you for that. But if you recognise it as a vice, then why not choose to cut it out of your life as well. You gotta find an outlet, a healthier alternative to provide you with the stress relief that pot gives you. For me its running, spending more time with friends and reading. For you it can be something else. Do not try to equate people taking medication for a condition to people taking drugs recreationally. Cannabis for Bipolar is like putting diesel in a petrol engine.

I say this not for the sake judging you, its just mania and psychosis is something I would not wish on my worst enemy. In the end of the day your health is in your hands so choose wisely.

All the best,
-H

 

[ht46]

Dear healthybrain,

Going from experience, I would strongly advise you to reconsider your position. According to research, Cannabis is second only to amphetamines (speed) in substance induced rates of conversion to psychosis. I have personal experience with this, as I used pot as a crutch to get me through my initial depressive episode, but I had no idea the harm that I was doing to my mental health until it was far too late. Despite your misconceptions there is no such thing as 'safe' pot, especially not for people with serious psychiatric disorders

I think that you recognise the fact you do not take any other substances and applaud you for that. But if you recognise it as a vice, then why not choose to cut it out of your life as well. You gotta find an outlet, a healthier alternative to provide you with the stress relief that pot gives you. For me its running, spending more time with friends and reading. For you it can be something else. Do not try to equate people taking medication for a condition to people taking drugs recreationally. Cannabis for Bipolar is like putting diesel in a petrol engine.

I say this not for the sake judging you, its just mania and psychosis is something I would not wish on my worst enemy. In the end of the day your health is in your hands so choose wisely.

All the best,
-H

Yeah I agree with Hlon it's not worth it and dangerous, my friend who is Bi Polar smokes weed and he's in High security psychiatric ward.

 

[ht46]

If you're looking for an outlet and running, socialising isn't for you I know the feeling I'm not too good at being positive either although it is the ideal, I suggest taking a creative one like poetry or painting. I'm being hypocritical because I do drink but my Ideal is to be booze free and creative and focus on being healthier, living a more balanced life, vices aren't good things in the long run if you can avoid them do.

 

[HLon99]

If you're looking for an outlet and running, socialising isn't for you I know the feeling I'm not too good at being positive either although it is the ideal, I suggest taking a creative one like poetry or painting. I'm being hypocritical because I do drink but my Ideal is to be booze free and creative and focus on being healthier, living a more balanced life, vices aren't good things in the long run if you can avoid them do.

Very good point. Creative outlets are not only a fantastic way of getting satisfaction but also expanding your mindset beyond yourself and your own negative thoughts.

 

[healthybrain]

I have my medical marijuana card for pain management, other issues with body. That and 800mg of ibuprofen. Its a vise to you lungs and building some fat on your dendrites slowing neurotransmitters. It helps so much too with the depression, giving access to creative outlets.
My main concern with this post is how it reacts with Quetiapine.

I appreciate everyones concern.

 

[boffin1252]

I've been on full 300mg quirepine for 1 week now thinking of stopping it, and moving onto something else. I keep waking up in night with blocked nose and very dry mouth. Also feel sleepy next day. Was thinking of moving onto lithium or another anti psychotic. Any one tried other bipolar drugs, are they better than quitipine?

 

[HLon99]

I've been on full 300mg quirepine for 1 week now thinking of stopping it, and moving onto something else. I keep waking up in night with blocked nose and very dry mouth. Also feel sleepy next day. Was thinking of moving onto lithium or another anti psychotic. Any one tried other bipolar drugs, are they better than quitipine?

I use Aripiprazole (Abilify) and Lamotrigine (Lamictal). The aripiprazole helps control the mania and the lamictal the depression. Both drugs work great for me and have minimal side effects.