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'Put out to grass!'......

amathus

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So I have spent since last Friday...depressed, low, unhappy and for the most part, rejected....
I had an appointment with my pdoc, and despite being told that I had 'complex MH issues', in the next breath he advised that soon I was to be discharged from the services.

I am to be sixty next year and am left wondering if this is an age related policy?

'Ah but', I said hopefully, 'there will be support from Adult Social Care'...
'No, this has been stopped due to funding', was the reply.

So I'm left wondering, are my MH problems suddenly expected to evaporate into thin air? Am I regarded as no longer needing support?

I expect that there are those of you out there saying to themselves, I can't even get support; and this is so very true and in my view a disgraceful state of affairs.

A rant, I know, but I can't escape from the sudden feelings of worthlessness, and thoughts of my continued existence....
 
unwell

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I'm only 35 and feel much the same. The message is it is too late. Whenever there is a news piece on MH the focus is on young people (kids, teenagers and young adults) and preventing them from turning out like us. We're the poster child for changes to the MH system but not the intended recipients.
 
tricky32

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Unfortunately its the same story across the country with mental health services facing cuts across the land.

I've been through councilling myself this year, and although I found it very useful, I could only be offered 10sessions and can't have any more until next year. Could really do with it right now but luckily I joined this site a couple of weeks ago

Luckily also, I have a good sympathetic GP who has been really good, but I know that this is the exception rather than the rule, with GPs being alot more synical, whilst others being completely unsympathetic. I even know of a doctor in the same surgery as my GP who doesn't believe depression is a really issue for people and refuses to prescribe any anti depressants based on this. It seems its luck of the draw which really is unfair

I guess what I'm trying to say is that although no one really knows what its like going through what you are going through, you can take some comfort (hopefully) from the fact that you are not alone, and that you have this site to put down your feelings at least

Hope this helps :)
 
Lillyone

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I am the in the same boat.
I am 56 and been told I cannot seek further help I am stuck in no mans land, as I have no family or close friends to help me.
Today I received a letter from the DWP as I have been claiming ESA for the past 7 months that I must now if told to by my advisor start to do work related training or a large part of my money will be sanctioned.
In all of my life I have never asked for help until the past 2 years, some help some support.
I despair for myself and all those like me.

if I was able to work do they not think I would, after all my house is at risk, do they think I am play acting.
 
tricky32

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Hi Lillyone, I'm currently on ESA too, have you had an assessment?

I had one several months back only to be told that I was fit for work and they stopped all money. Its only since I appealed that they started the money again. I think I'm one of the lucky ones as my appeal has recently come back in my favour, but have heard of so many people who this hasn't happened too, including a terminal cancer patient!! Try talking to the CAB as they really helped me through the appeals process, they should be able to help you in some way :)
 
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Hi Lillyone, I'm currently on ESA too, have you had an assessment?

I had one several months back only to be told that I was fit for work and they stopped all money. Its only since I appealed that they started the money again. I think I'm one of the lucky ones as my appeal has recently come back in my favour, but have heard of so many people who this hasn't happened too, including a terminal cancer patient!! Try talking to the CAB as they really helped me through the appeals process, they should be able to help you in some way :)
Hi

I was one of the 'lucky' ones, and I passed my medical, I actually saw a GP, and she was lovely, as is my advisor at the job centre, but the rest of the stuff has been a nightmare.
I am due another assessment or maybe just kicked off ESA end of Jan, so all in all that will be interesting.
I know that they now have the power to stop your money for even longer, if you fail to meet their criteria, and do as they say.

Its a nightmare isn't it.
I was so paranoid when I went for the so called medical, that I thought a couple who came up to me, outside the ATOS building asking for directions, were spies..(silly I know) but the rumours about these people are rife.

The secretary behind the desk must have been ex army, or police. If they were filming believe you me, she worked wonders for me.
I dropped everything as she was ordering me to do this, do that - I was shaking.
What I do not get is IF there are no jobs for fit people, who is going to give us a job.
I could not get a job before I had mental health issues on my record, could not even get an interview, I am 56 who is going to want me..

I have made contact with the local mind group, and I shall ask them if I face a wall, local CAB is not much use, sadly overworked and under funded.

I despair, as I am sure you do.
When I had my last interview with my advisor, I was sitting waiting and I heard the new JSA claimants registering. Do you know they make you agree that you will travel 90 minutes each way in search of a job.
So up to 3 hours travelling a day.

Hope all goes well for you.
And, yes a lot of people have won their appeal.
 
tricky32

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Sounds like you're really hacving a bad time with it all :hug1:

The medical is a joke isn't it? The only thing I can suggest is to keep on doing what you have been doing really, Mind in particular should be able to help. I'm suprised that the CAB haven't helped you though, I guess its luck of the draw which is so unfair. Welfare rights were good for me too, 0845 053 0013 is the number or I know that a charity called Making Space have a lot of outlets too

I wish I could help out more :hug:
 
Lillyone

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Sounds like you're really hacving a bad time with it all :hug1:

The medical is a joke isn't it? The only thing I can suggest is to keep on doing what you have been doing really, Mind in particular should be able to help. I'm suprised that the CAB haven't helped you though, I guess its luck of the draw which is so unfair. Welfare rights were good for me too, 0845 053 0013 is the number or I know that a charity called Making Space have a lot of outlets too

I wish I could help out more :hug:
When I filled in the form (which I did myself) I had no idea how it worked, and the needing 15 points, blah blah.
I filled it in honestly, no over emphasis on anything, just as it was.
I think my luck was actually getting a GP, who was so nice, she apologised that I had to go through this.
(but yes, the medical) is like a lottery.
Not many get a doctor do they.
Mu advisor at the JC is so nice, I often cry (as she has been one of the nicest people I have met since being ill).. wish she my my mental health CPN.
She knows as well as I do, that my chances of finding work are 0, she tried to get me to look at working for myself, but there is NO financial backup, and there is no way I could meet the stress of that (not at the moment) if ever.
If I had a partner and I only needed pin money, OK - but not to live on and support myself.

I take each day at a time, and address each issues as it rears its head, it is the only way I can cope with it all.
On the days I cannot face it, I walk away from it (and there are lots of those)!

What about you, are you going to have to go back to signing on, who will then look after your family.
Problem is the Government has this idea we are ALL scroungers, and are fit to work!
Did I ever think at this stage of my life I would be facing this - no!
What can we do - but keep trying to fight our corner, and prove the system wrong.
 
tricky32

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The short answer is no- my wife has a form of psychosis so I'm her registered carer. The funny thing is that I applied for carers allowance and they would rather pay me ESA???? But at the moment they haven't said anything about me applying for JSA but if that day comes then I will go onto carers

My wife is currently in hospital for her condition where she has been for nearly 6 weeks now, if I had to work there wouldn't be anyone to look after her when she comes out of hospital or my two girls either. I first came out of work last year because the stress of looking after my two girls and coping with my wife as well as doing shift work at the airport was far too much for me- I realised that my family was more important than any job I could ever do

It was hard at the begininng giving up a career, a car and one day the possibility of owning my own home- and it still hard most times. I struggle with motivation, sleep deprivation and very low mood, but even if all that went away I wouldn't be in a position to work as I still have to look after my wife.

I completely understand the way you feel about trying to cope with the things going on with your ESA etc. It seems like all the government want to do is harrass you and its difficult to cope with, and ironically, if the governement were so concerned about getting you back into work then they would be trying to help you more, not keep harrassing you which only serves to make your condition worse. They don't seem to realise this for some unknown reason- they are definatley more interested in the numbers than the actual problems. Its such a shame
 
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