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What does Psychotic Disorder mean?

Some people say Bipolar 1 is included in it. Other websites say it is not.

What are all the psychotic disorder officially?
 
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It would be like a general class of mental health disorders that include schizophrenia for example:

 
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thanks for the link.

I have had a look at that link. It doesn't mention Bipolar 1.

I have seen Bipolar 1 mentioned in other Psychotic Disorders information.

This is why i am confused.
 
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As I looked it up somewhere else, it is mentioned:

 
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On the second link you posted, it says Bipolar Disorder is a psychotic disorder but on the first link it does not.

Do you see why I am confused.

I called a mental health helpline to ask about this. they were not able to help at all. They just told me to look at the mind website. I have obviously already done that. It is shit.
 
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I have no idea about bipolar, sorry, I have only read in a few places that during a manic phase some people experience psychosis
 
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My understanding is that bipolar can include psychosis in some people, but it doesn’t in every single person. So there are probably diagnoses of “bipolar 1” and “bipolar 1 with psychosis”.
 
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basically I want to know what does it mean if you have psychotic disorder???????

how can they diagnose you with something then not give you any explanation of anything.
 
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psychotic disorder it’s not a disease, it’s something like certain mental health issues have psychotic symptomatology
 
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psychotic disorder it’s not a disease, it’s something like certain mental health issues have psychotic symptomatology
this is what I don't understand.

How can they diagnose you with 'psychotic disorder' then if it is not a disease?
 
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It’s like a temporary/working diagnosis, it happened to my son as well. They need to have some paperwork done so they can prescribe meds initially until certain milestones are reached and then they see if the symptomatology matches a certain diagnosis.
 
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Just to be clear, my son has this written on his paperwork:
F23.0 Acute polymorphic psychotic disorder without symptoms of schizophrenia
it is taken from icd-10 classification of mental health disorders
At first I was paralyzed with fear, but then I realized is just something they need to start working on, because all these disorders are not diseases so you don’t have a biomarker to help you with the diagnosis, they just need to justify a treatment plan and then work with dosage slowly, changing meds, etc. If symptomps are constant for more than a certain period of time then they could change the diagnosis.
 
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Thanks Linus,

With me they have never bothered to re-look at my diagnosis. They have just left it at that ...it means nothing though. They never bothered to explain anything to me or give me any therapy at all even though I specifically asked for it.
 
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I think this Is pretty generalized, we were kept in the dark for months and we were freaking out (as carers). Then I started reading about it and eventually I was able to ask questions (at the beginning I couldn’t, I would either panic or become aggressive) and get some answers from the medic, however they don’t really have clear answers because mostly it’s a trial and error approach and if something works (to make you symptom-free or in control) then leave it like this for a longer period of time and discuss again later. For example in FEP the protocol states that one should be kept on meds for at least 1 year.
 
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