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Psych drugs mess up human bonding capabilities

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Following article reprinted from above site -

Helen Fisher is an anthropologist who has looked at how antidepressants effect romantic love, falling in love and most importantly ongoing attachment. The conclusion being that the love response and the human instinct for attachment are profoundly messed up. Antidepressants don’t just create sexual dysfunction, they wreak havoc with the whole emotional system that creates attachment to other human beings. In my experience it is not only the antidepressants that do this. As far as I can tell all psychiatric drugs do it. As I’ve said before the only reason they look at antidepressants is because they are so mainstream. The other psych meds aren’t taken by as many “normal” people as the antidepressants do so they haven’t been studied by this woman who is basically making a social commentary. It would be nice if she extended her studies to include all psychotropics, but it feels rather typical that we who have been on the stronger stuff would be overlooked, as is so often the case.

My relationship has certainly suffered as a result of blunted feelings and those feelings were blunted well after I got off antidepressants as they were the first drug to go in my psychiatric drug withdrawal process. The neuroleptics and somewhat less so, the benzodiazepines also are guilty of causing similar problems. Neuroleptics also seem to cause sexual dysfunction just about as often as antidepressants.

Below is from an article in the LA times about 2 years ago. I’ve written about this topic before but it bears repeating:

Couples think about the other obsessively – on a roller coaster of euphoria when together, longing when apart.

“It’s temporary insanity,” says Helen Fisher, an evolutionary anthropologist at Rutgers University.

Now, from her studies of the brains of lovers in the throes of the initial tumble, Fisher has developed a controversial theory. She and her collaborator, psychiatrist J. Anderson Thomson of the University of Virginia, believe that Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil and other antidepressants alter brain chemistry so as to blunt the intense cutting edge of new love.

Fisher and Thomson, who describe their theory in a chapter in the book, “Evolutionary Cognitive Neuroscience,” aren’t talking just about the notorious ability of the drugs to damp sexual desire and performance, although that, they believe, plays its part. They think the drugs also sap the craving for a mate – perhaps even the brain’s very ability to fall in love.

And here is a video of her speaking on the same topic but emphasizing different things which I think are more important:


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This fact alone about psychiatric drugs is enough to undermine society. Don’t think this doesn’t effect parent’s ability to love and bond with their children. And then when you think about all the kids on these drugs who simply don’t develop normally. Teenage hormones are part of growing up. What happens when you skip that developmental stage? What happens if you never enter it at all due to a lifetime of being on drugs? We are stopping the human experience from happening.
 
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X69xQl-xF1k

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Yeah Electric Six! They make me laugh. High voltage is still my favorite though.

I have a deep distrust of psychiatric drugs... I stay on my lithium only because I crash so hard when I go off of it, but I worry about long term effects- emotional as well as physical. Apotheosis you mentioned your "psychiatric drug withdrawal process" was this just a reducing of meds or a move towards living without them?
 
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I have a deep distrust of psychiatric drugs... I stay on my lithium only because I crash so hard when I go off of it, but I worry about long term effects- emotional as well as physical. Apotheosis you mentioned your "psychiatric drug withdrawal process" was this just a reducing of meds or a move towards living without them?
I hate being on meds, & I feel the same way about them. I take a low dose of an anti-psychotic.

At 17 I was on a lot of meds, & successfully stopped them all.

At 21 was back on meds & again successfully stopped them all.

At 25 I was placed on this present med. I have been on it close to 12 years.
After a year of being on a very high dose of it I stopped it dead, & became very unwell. I then refused meds on a section, but eventually agreed to a far lower dose. I have stopped it again twice since then. Once with a 3 month taper to nothing, & the last time with a 2 year taper. The results were the same, I get increasing anxiety that turns to paranoia & become very psychosed & unwell.

There are many reasons for this I think. A lot I think does have to do with withdrawal reactions from this drug. & it is very hard with so little specific social support, & a lack of proper psychological help. In this country there really isn't any help for people to get off psych drugs.

The best I can do for now is to get as much acceptance around taking this med as possible. I have got it to the lowest dose that I can.
 
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Yeah Electric Six! They make me laugh. High voltage is still my favorite though.
They are good.

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