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lehcar24

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Do you think that by seeing someone and talking/working it through can help you get over depression/bpd etc..

i recently saw a psychologist and she asked me why i would consider suicide and i said mainly cos i dont see a future.. i dont see myself ever getting over whatever is going on with me cos i have always been like this.. its not somethin that has come over me all of a sudden and if this is how im gonna be in 50 years time then whats the point...

anyway, she reckons that by getting help it can be sorted... but i dont believe it.. i dont think i will change the way i think about things..
If i did change the way i think then i would be a completely different person cos this is me...

so i dont believe it will work but wondered what u all thought?????
 
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talking

Talking can be bleak , especially dealing with painful memories,
on the other hand it can be good, dealing with difficult stuff??
it depends on how you feel about it, kind of you're the driver on this journey, you have to trust the people who are treating you, so you can be honest and not afraid.
I hope this helps a little..



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I know it doesnt work for everyone, but it definately helps me. It helps me deal with how im feeling now and helps me deal with things that happened to me when i was younger. it is just nice to get it all out. and they can often let you see a different perspective. i am a very negative thinker and like you i thot id be as well commit suicide as i would never ever be any different. but with medication and talking therapy it is possible to feel better.

give it a go for a few sessions see how you get on.

good luck anyway hope it works for you :hug:
 
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My answer is the biggest YES.

I’ve said this elsewhere, but I can't imagine coming through all the distress and confusion in my life without having someone to go to regularly in therapy or counselling (at least weekly) who listened to me and who I felt accepted by, as well as appropriately/gently challenged, to help me work out the whys and wherefores, and the meanings, of my difficulties...

But you need to find someone you 'click' with, who you feel you can relate to and trust, and it's not easy - it can be a lot of hard emotional work - but every bit worth it, IMO. (See my 'Introduce yourself...' if you want any more details of my own 'recovery' journey)
 
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Yes.

Well, to some extent.
You think this miserable state is intrinsic to your personality, but it's not. You will still be you, just with working out your issues, you may be able to function better and think more clearly.
I feel the therapy that I have had in recent years has helped me to understand myself better, and prevent me from repeating the same mistakes, sometimes, though by no means has it 'fixed me'.

For the most part, I think talking therapies help you to have some perspective on yourself, and that allows you to regain some control. But really they only help you move forward if you're in a state of mind where you want to move forward. If you want to feel better, not necessarily that you think you can, but you want to, then they can help. But if you are stuck in a destructive cycle where you believe nothing can help you, and you're not open to trying, then they don't really help.
You've just got to be open and give it a try. Think of it this way: you have nothing to lose. If it doesn't work, you're in the same situation, if it does work, which it does for many people, you will be much better off. So give it a try. Don't go into it thinking it's a waste of time.

Good luck with it :)
 
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What i found was that when i needed to talk it was great for getting things of my chest so my thoughts didnt stay in my head mixing my brain up. This helped me to definately sleep better and clear my thinking The problem i have always found is at the point of having to be positive, doing something that may just mean ringing an old mate to say hello i bottle it. Because the counsellor starts to put pressure on me to do it,i walk away.tell him i need no more help, so i remain in this endless cycle.

But getting back to my original point i would rather scream at a counsellor to clear my head than say speak to samaritans.

Just my thoughts.
 
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anyway, she reckons that by getting help it can be sorted... but i dont believe it.. i dont think i will change the way i think about things..
If i did change the way i think then i would be a completely different person cos this is me...

so i dont believe it will work but wondered what u all thought?????
But if you don't believe something will help, if you are cynical about taking the journey before you embark, to the degree you think the journey is pointless and not worth taking, then you are already setting yourself up for failure.

Severe unhappiness, in my opinion, always happens for a reason. It persists and becomes not so much who we are but who we have become habituated to think of ourselves as. People that overcome severe unhappiness in a therapuetic situation do so through a process of re-evaluating their thought processes and identifying the negative feedback loops that they've habituated themselves to.

A negative feedback loop goes something like this:

Nobody likes me - this makes me unhappy - when I mix with people I am miserable because I knew they wouldn't like me before I arrived - people then avoid me because I act morosely - this proves that nobody likes me.

That's a very simple example and I don't mean it to suggest that your problems are as simple and non-complex as that. But if any of us assess our thought patterns we will be able to identify negative feedback loops. And I really mean that for everyone. I think severe and seemingly intractable unhappiness and dysfunctional behaviour is often connected to issues of self-esteem which is perpetuated by negetative feedback loops.

It is possible to overcome self-defeating ways of thinking. But you have to be patient. There are never quick fixes. And as Oneday says, finding the right person is essential and the first challenge.

It's ultimately up to you. But every journey we take in life is worth it if the destination is possibly a better place than where we embarked from. But just like the fabled Eldorado, the journey there is hard, strenuous and exhausting - and many will faulter and give in along the way...

You have to really want to feel better. You have to really believe in that possibility. I'd say go for it, because what do you have to lose through trying?

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Do you think that by seeing someone and talking/working it through can help you get over depression/bpd etc..

i recently saw a psychologist and she asked me why i would consider suicide and i said mainly cos i dont see a future.. i dont see myself ever getting over whatever is going on with me cos i have always been like this.. its not somethin that has come over me all of a sudden and if this is how im gonna be in 50 years time then whats the point...

anyway, she reckons that by getting help it can be sorted... but i dont believe it.. i dont think i will change the way i think about things..
If i did change the way i think then i would be a completely different person cos this is me...

so i dont believe it will work but wondered what u all thought?????
I know where your coming from, i have personality disorder and talking therapy has been perscribed to me, and i believe that talking in conjunction wiht medication is a way forward. I know that it might be hard to talk about your past especially if its painfull but by using the talking therapy it also helps you get intouch with unsaid or deeply held issues.... but it does take time to resolve.


Good luck.
 
lehcar24

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Thanks for the replies :)

so i know you have to go into thinking it will help and be willing to try or its not gonna work!

i am willing to try i jus have a hard time believing it will change anything cos i have been like this for as long as i remember so if i am having trouble believin it will help/work is ther much point? and how do i change my way of thinking so i will think yeah this is gonna work.. ?

what if she turns around and says to me it doesnt seem like ur actually helping yourself so how do u expect us to help ... what if i litterally piss her off and she decides she no longer wants to waste her time..

im crap at all this stuff i actually feel like i want to be like this all my life cos i dont believe anything will change me and i dunno if i actually wanna change which is stupid cos i hate being so... like me! ?
 
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Talking can be helpful, but is not the full answer. The patient needs medication for bi-polar. Have you seen a specialist. the way in is via the G.P. and ask for a referral to a psyciatrist.If yo don't get the referral contact the mental Health Team, and if you get no satisfaction there wite to your PCT(Patient Care Trust and saythat you have an UNMET NEED. Take no n otice of the messages that don't likke the psychs, that is often part of the illness, and the patient's not accepting that they need specialist help. If it was a physical illness they would accept a sugeon easily, but if it is a mental illness, they often do not have the insight to seek help.
Good luck and be co-operative. th professionals are there to help.:)
 

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