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Please Don't Call Us "Difficult To Engage"

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JoySC

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Hi. I hope it's okay to post the link to a piece I wrote last week for the Huffington Post about people who MH services sometimes describe as "difficult to engage". I was categorised as someone who was difficult to engage and so it's an issue which I feel strongly about. I now run a Suicide Crisis Centre, which was set up by a "service user".

The link to the Huffington Post piece is:-

Please Don't Call Us 'Difficult to Engage'

or Please Don't Call Us 'Difficult to Engage'
 
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Per Ardua Ad Astra

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Thanks for posting, Joy :)

It does seem like a bit of an insult to describe us as difficult to engage. And sometimes it's used as an excuse to fob-off a person, and make accessing a service hard for them, or even to deny them a service.

And some MH professionals, perhaps might want to reflect on why people don't want to engage with their service. Maybe past experience, or the experiences of their family members, or that of other patients who've gone before them.

Fact is, some services are not worth engaging with. Not, as the popular phrase goes nowadays, fit for purpose....:)
 
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This article has voiced my exact thoughts! I also had a terrible experience with Crisis teams where they just sent a different person and expected me to open up to every single one ane when I couldn't they said I was refusing to engage and so on.

It made me more suicidal which was met with threats of sectioning and eventually I pretended I was better and just did what I wanted without medical help. I still worry that I've irreversibly harmed myself but can never get it checked!

I hope more people read and share your article and it is taken seriously by MH services!!!
 
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I'm so sorry to hear of your experience, FigJam. The article is getting good feedback from some clinicians in MH services (on social media) so like you, I hope it gets circulated further. It's good that some of them are reacting so positively. In my own county, though, MH services are staying absolutely silent about it.
 
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Hi and thanks for your reply Per Ardua Ad Astra :) Yes I think much of the responsibility lies with MH services in helping people to engage with them - not in categorising us as unable to engage.
 
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Hi and thanks for your reply Per Ardua Ad Astra :) Yes I think much of the responsibility lies with MH services in helping people to engage with them - not in categorising us as unable to engage.
Exactly :)

But that's like getting blood from a stone, to be candid. The MH 'services' aka a defective chimera, and the MH 'professionals', are past-masters in the art of evasion and fobbing-off. About as useful as a square wheel in many regards, I would say :)

This article has voiced my exact thoughts! I also had a terrible experience with Crisis teams where they just sent a different person and expected me to open up to every single one ane when I couldn't they said I was refusing to engage and so on.

It made me more suicidal which was met with threats of sectioning and eventually I pretended I was better and just did what I wanted without medical help. I still worry that I've irreversibly harmed myself but can never get it checked!

I hope more people read and share your article and it is taken seriously by MH services!!!
I'm so sorry to hear of your experience, FigJam. The article is getting good feedback from some clinicians in MH services (on social media) so like you, I hope it gets circulated further. It's good that some of them are reacting so positively. In my own county, though, MH services are staying absolutely silent about it.
Staying silent about it. Well now, there's a fucking surprise :meanie:

The MH 'services' and 'professionals' running true to form. It's business, bollocks and twaddle as usual, in their cozy and dysfunctional world :rolleyes:
 
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How I agree with you all.
I have absolutely no confidence nor desire to be involved
with them.
Horrendous treatment and dangerous input.

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