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PiP is it worth it?

Screechout

Screechout

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hello, i know there are a lot of threads already around about pip but thought i'd make my own to get more specific advice.

my care co-ordinator has recommended that i apply for pip, i was going to apply in the past but after reading into it a lot it seemed like way to much hassle and stress that i can't deal with not to mention didn't think i could get it anyway.

she explained it's not about your diagnosis but how it affects you, just for clarification i'm diagonsed with bpd along with depression. the other thing that was worrying me was that i do have 'good days' so to speak and if my assesment falls on a day that i'm coping better then they won't see the fall extent of things and how they affect me on other days. so is it even worth it? heard of others with bpd being rejected for it so not sure if it's even worth it.
 
Tigergirl

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I get pip and I have BPD. You just tell them how it affects you. I also have good days too but still got it.

This is what they want for you to be stressed out. I really would apply there is no harm in trying.
 
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PP1331

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Hello. I recently got PIP for BPD and PTSD (enhanced care, standard mobility, for 2.5 years). I was fully expecting not to get it as everyone said they usually knock people back in the first instance and you have to appeal etc., so I was very relieved to get it, so it can be done. I'm not sure if this is true, but anecdotally it seems like they're being a tiny bit more reasonable at the moment, maybe due to the bad press and expense about the fact tribunal successes are at an all time high, as I know a few people who have got it without having to appeal, with mental health only.

It might just be an element of luck, but I think what helped for me was
a. on my form and in person, I ensured i was covering the points on the system that they use, which can be found here: https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/Global/Migrated_Documents/adviceguide/pip-9-table-of-activities-descriptors-and-points.pdf

and b. Lots of documentation. It doesn't necessarily matter if it doesn't cover all the areas, as long as it suggests a general level of need. So for example some of the descriptors were directly addressed in the paperwork, e.g. letter from support worker confirming she helps me with budgeting, confirmation letter from Access to Work confirming I get a travel grant to get taxis to work. But some of the thing I got points for, e.g. washing and dressing, were not directly covered in the evidence beyond my statement, but the assessors report said some thing like 'she has input from specialist services, is on antipsychotic medication, so it is medically probable she is not safe in the kitchen'. If you have a care co-ordinator, that should certainly help convey that level of input.

Also, they seem to put a lot of emphasis on their own mental state examination and informal observations, and in mine mentioned this a lot (to my favour fortunately as I was a nervous wreck!) e.g. 'she appeared withdrawn, poor eye contact, poor report, required prompting, looked to her support worker for reassurance, which suggests she would need prompting to engage with others'. I wouldn't worry too much about having an uncharacteristically good day that day, as it is so nerve-wracking you will probably be very anxious and not have slept well.

In terms of good and bad days generally, what matters to them is that the bad days are more than half the time, so if they are, make sure you emphasise that.
 
PinkCandyFloss

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It’s it stressful? Yes
Is it worth it in the end? I hope so this is my second time applying!

My tips would be
A) In the forms make out that your worst days are what you’re like every day. If there’s something you can do such as go out at all on really bad days, say this is the case all the time.

B) Don’t be embarrassed/hesitate to go into as much detail as you need. In my first application I was still trying to come to terms with my diagnosis and downplayed things, just as I did for years and wrote very little. This time, I had so many extra pages, well into double figures

C) If possible record your face to face and always have someone with you

D) Remember asides from CAB there may also be charities in the area that can help you fill in the forms and get through any assessments, don’t be afraid or ashamed to use them

E) Good luck, fingers crossed for you x
 
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