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Paranoia and psychosis

mami5

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Are paranoia and psychosis the same? My CPN says I had psychosis but GP called it paranoia, is there a difference? I thought it was paranoia myself.
 
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I *think* psychosis is delusions, hallucinations or hearing voices.

Are you experiencing delusions due to your paranoia?
 
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Can you tell me what your paranoia is about?

I had severe paranoia during my psychosis which I'd be happy to tell you more about if you like but I don't believe paranoia equals psychosis all the time.
 
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I believed that CMHT were planning on putting a microchip in my head to read my thoughts etc.
 
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Well that's paranoid psychosis so there you go...and welcome back to the forum @mami5 it's been a while since you were on. :).
 
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I believed that CMHT were planning on putting a microchip in my head to read my thoughts etc.
When I was psychotic I believed I had been microchipped, too. I think most people would view this kind of thinking as delusional because although it is possible, it's not probable and would be illegal.

You can be psychotic even if your only symptom is delusions. I didn't have hallucinations or hear voices but was still psychotic.

I hope you are able to trust the CMHT enough to adjust your medication to try and get you well. Are you taking anything just now?
 
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Thank you Parayana, have been writing in my journal every so often.

So would make me unfit to drive? CPN wants me to inform DVLA that I have psychosis. Have had it worse before and nobody said anything.
 
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Thank you Parayana, have been writing in my journal every so often.

So would make me unfit to drive? CPN wants me to inform DVLA that I have psychosis. Have had it worse before and nobody said anything.
You should tell the DVLA, they'll give you back your license once you're treated and stable for a period.
 
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I'm stable now, I did not lose insight or anything and know it wasn't true. It was a case of my anxiety taking over. As some of you know (those who have been here a while) I also suffer with suicidal thoughts, have for years. All of a sudden this is another concern for CPN and she wants me to report this too. She didn't mention anything when under HTT in September, only now when I'm better.
 
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Yeah @mami5, I've had my anxiety spill over into paranoia, but since I've been taking meds I knew I was ill. They don't necessarilt suspend your licence for psychosis like they do for mania, but they might make you renew it more often, at least that's what happened to my mate a few years ao.
 
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I'm stable now, I did not lose insight or anything and know it wasn't true. It was a case of my anxiety taking over. As some of you know (those who have been here a while) I also suffer with suicidal thoughts, have for years. All of a sudden this is another concern for CPN and she wants me to report this too. She didn't mention anything when under HTT in September, only now when I'm better.
Maybe she's putting pressure on you now because she's messed up by not telling you. My CPN didn't even tell me when I came out of hospital and it was just luck I wasn't driving, someone I met with schizophrenia told me I needed to tell the DVLA.

It's a tricky one if it's just a paranoid thought rather than a delusional belief. But she's just doing her job telling you to report it.
 
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Was it just that one belief? Do you remember when and why you started to believe this?

I think I'd class it as an intrusive thought if you never really believed it wholeheartedly and it never effected the way you interact with your mental health team.

For me it was at the beginning of my psychosis when I started to believe (because a voice in my head told me so) that people were coming to harm me and my family, I also thought I was being watched by bugs placed in my smoke alarms, passing planes and helicopters and people parked on my street.

It got so bad that one night I kept my whole family awake in case the people came to hurt us while we were sleeping, needless to say the next morning they called for help and an ambulance turned up to take me into hospital for assessment which led to a nine day stay on a ward for acute mental disorders.

Now I'm on medication I don't have paranoia any more but my voice that has still persisted for over three years after my last episode still tries to give me ideas that would be considered paranoid if I were to believe him but fortunately I don't believe a word he says.
 
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I'm already on low dose of risperidone. I have a psych appointment for next week (which was my trigger!) and GP has advised me to wait until I see her before doing anything. I live in a very rural small village with limited public transport and would find it very hard to cope without my car. Plus it would be hard with my anxiety. CPN wanted me to sell my car even!! Think she's really got it in for me for some reason. Has already told me she can't help me and neither will meds. Feel like a lost cause ready for the scrap heap thanks to her. Before last week's visit I hadn't seen or heard from her for over 6 weeks when I was discharged from HTT. I went from seeing someone every other day to nothing overnight.
 
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I'm already on low dose of risperidone. I have a psych appointment for next week (which was my trigger!) and GP has advised me to wait until I see her before doing anything. I live in a very rural small village with limited public transport and would find it very hard to cope without my car. Plus it would be hard with my anxiety. CPN wanted me to sell my car even!! Think she's really got it in for me for some reason. Has already told me she can't help me and neither will meds. Feel like a lost cause ready for the scrap heap thanks to her.
Bit cheeky telling you to sell your car.

Situation is rubbish. Your GP sounds supportive - think it was my GP who dealt with the DVLA.

So bad saying meds won't help! Both my CPNs have been good but still a lot I had to figure out myself.
 
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I've had psychosis before in the past but nobody told me to report them to DVLA, and that includes psych.
 
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