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Overthinking/anxiety leading to depression?

whyme88

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I get the feeling most people picture anxiety as panic attacks. However I have anxiety in the sense that I keep worrying and overthinking, which leads to periods of low mood.

Unfortunately for me the triggers are all my interactions with others. Depending on how many triggers are there, the impending depression can vary in severity, from feeling slightly down to just wanting to hide in my bed for the whole day.

This means I can sometimes go for weeks feeling relatively happy and “normal” and suddenly the tables could turn.

I used to have someone close I could talk to but that was years ago now and we’ve grown apart. I just hide me feelings as it is just too hard to find someone I can really talk to.
I have small family around me but I just can’t talk to them openly. I don’t have any true friends, and the ones around me seems to like to take advantage of me.

I hate feeling low as I am missing out on life… but can’t get my brain to ignore the things that are making me depressed. Most of it are just “what ifs”, or at least things that I shouldn’t be worried about yet.

sorry for the long rant… feel like offloading.
 
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Hey whyme88, I honestly feel like I could have written that myself. I've got a ton of social anxiety, GAD stuff, that keeps me from doing a ton of stuff, keeps me ruminating about anything I may have said or done if I do go out and see people, which leads to me going out less again. I've lost contact w most of my support system as well, just isolating. The depression then comes on w the isolation, the shame, the sadness of missing out on important things in life that all the people around me are able to do.

Just started working on this w my new therapist and using DBT skills. Are you familiar w DBT? If not, it is really useful for anxiety and depression, for rumination and feeling self-conscious, low self esteem issues. There are some good books/workbooks on it that help you figure out your thought process and just put on paper what you worry about and what actually transpires. They also have YouTube videos on it and there are a lot of therapists who practice it. I get it, we feel like our lives are just passing by, the depression that comes w that is debiltating and we end up staying in bed to avoid situations that we think will make us feel bad and cause anxiety. I'd highly recommend DBT skills for this. :)
 
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I am ok 11 month a year. April, July, and November are not good month for me. When the season changes, my mind goes to the dumps. It is lasting a little longer than usual this time. I am getting tired.

No one to talk to, really. Therapy did not help, and my meds are not working but taking them anyways. Just in case it was working, but I did not know it was working. For over five years now, this roller coaster of life.

Yes, I am missing a lot on life, on bright side. I know a lot about darkness. I do not know why. Given, learned or whatever. Why does not change anything, but put me deeper into the hole. How do I get out of this hole? I am a recovering alcoholic, sober 13 years. I got out one hole, and went into another. Just as dark as one I was in.

Self-pity does not do me any good, I know. Maybe it is the part of the pay-back. It is apparent that I can not have a normal? life. As long as I do not pick up a bottle or kill myself, I am doing better than what I deserve. Somedays, that is not good enough.

I hope you will find peace from your mind. I hope we all do. Best wishes, my friend.
 
whyme88

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I am ok 11 month a year. April, July, and November are not good month for me. When the season changes, my mind goes to the dumps. It is lasting a little longer than usual this time. I am getting tired.

No one to talk to, really. Therapy did not help, and my meds are not working but taking them anyways. Just in case it was working, but I did not know it was working. For over five years now, this roller coaster of life.

Yes, I am missing a lot on life, on bright side. I know a lot about darkness. I do not know why. Given, learned or whatever. Why does not change anything, but put me deeper into the hole. How do I get out of this hole? I am a recovering alcoholic, sober 13 years. I got out one hole, and went into another. Just as dark as one I was in.

Self-pity does not do me any good, I know. Maybe it is the part of the pay-back. It is apparent that I can not have a normal? life. As long as I do not pick up a bottle or kill myself, I am doing better than what I deserve. Somedays, that is not good enough.

I hope you will find peace from your mind. I hope we all do. Best wishes, my friend.
Yes, winter time seems to be bad for me too, due to SAD.
I had a good run of almost 3 weeks of actually feeling happy and living my life. It was great, each day is pleasant and enjoyable. Something happened at work recently which changed that. Now every day I am miserable, feeling numb and not enjoying waking hours. Just feel as though life is slipping by... and I am no spring chicken either.

I suppose we all fight our own personal battles.
Even in my darkest days, I still manage to find a sliver of hope. Best wishes to you too buddy.
 
whyme88

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Hey whyme88, I honestly feel like I could have written that myself. I've got a ton of social anxiety, GAD stuff, that keeps me from doing a ton of stuff, keeps me ruminating about anything I may have said or done if I do go out and see people, which leads to me going out less again. I've lost contact w most of my support system as well, just isolating. The depression then comes on w the isolation, the shame, the sadness of missing out on important things in life that all the people around me are able to do.

Just started working on this w my new therapist and using DBT skills. Are you familiar w DBT? If not, it is really useful for anxiety and depression, for rumination and feeling self-conscious, low self esteem issues. There are some good books/workbooks on it that help you figure out your thought process and just put on paper what you worry about and what actually transpires. They also have YouTube videos on it and there are a lot of therapists who practice it. I get it, we feel like our lives are just passing by, the depression that comes w that is debiltating and we end up staying in bed to avoid situations that we think will make us feel bad and cause anxiety. I'd highly recommend DBT skills for this. :)
It's ironic, I crave friendship yet I struggle to socalise. My overthinking can sometimes be really extreme. If someone made a joke and I don't get it I find it really hard to handle it. I also don't manage banter well. Who knows, perhaps I am autistic too...

Do you mean CBT? I've had a few fews of sessions with through our health service. It was ok, but due to lockdown it's over the phone so I guess it's missing the face-to-face interaction.
I was recommended CBT with meditation. I am really trying to get into it.

Recently trigger is stuff that's been happening at work. I really want to share but no one to really share with so I have to just dwell in the sprical of over thinking and depression.
 
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When you say your CBT session was over the phone, do you mean like a Zoom telehealth meeting or do you mean no video whatsoever, just talking? In either case, I would do the CBT session, regardless of the format.
 
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It's ironic, I crave friendship yet I struggle to socalise. My overthinking can sometimes be really extreme. If someone made a joke and I don't get it I find it really hard to handle it. I also don't manage banter well. Who knows, perhaps I am autistic too...

Do you mean CBT? I've had a few fews of sessions with through our health service. It was ok, but due to lockdown it's over the phone so I guess it's missing the face-to-face interaction.
I was recommended CBT with meditation. I am really trying to get into it.

Recently trigger is stuff that's been happening at work. I really want to share but no one to really share with so I have to just dwell in the sprical of over thinking and depression.
Hey, it's interesting that you notice it's with the change of seasons. I'd never thought about that.

DBT is dialectical behaviour therapy, which is often more helpful in giving actual skills to work toward the life you want or hope for. It's more hands on, I think, and doesn't spend as much time reliving the past, but rather takes on the present and how to get to a better future. I'm no expert on it, just re-learning it again now, but this is how I'd describe it. It entails a lot of mindfulness and not seeing things in black and white, if that is what you do.
 
whyme88

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When you say your CBT session was over the phone, do you mean like a Zoom telehealth meeting or do you mean no video whatsoever, just talking? In either case, I would do the CBT session, regardless of the format.
For me it was just a few sessions over the phone. I was given some documents to read.
 
whyme88

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Hey, it's interesting that you notice it's with the change of seasons. I'd never thought about that.

DBT is dialectical behaviour therapy, which is often more helpful in giving actual skills to work toward the life you want or hope for. It's more hands on, I think, and doesn't spend as much time reliving the past, but rather takes on the present and how to get to a better future. I'm no expert on it, just re-learning it again now, but this is how I'd describe it. It entails a lot of mindfulness and not seeing things in black and white, if that is what you do.
Thanks, I've never heard about DBT before until now. I will do some research on this.
As above, meds don't really help me so looking for other methods to manage this.

I've also joined a few Discord groups just to check with like-minded individuals as I find it easier to socialise online compared to face-to-face. Unfortunately most users in Discord are half my age...
 
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Thanks, I've never heard about DBT before until now. I will do some research on this.
As above, meds don't really help me so looking for other methods to manage this.

I've also joined a few Discord groups just to check with like-minded individuals as I find it easier to socialise online compared to face-to-face. Unfortunately most users in Discord are half my age...
You will inspire the younger people and feel from your own experiences that you can help them know you relate to it, which brings its own sense of peace and sense of community. I really hope the DBT stuff is helpful and think it will be. It applies basically to everyone's life, but for us it is so helpful in getting us past our obstacles. It really is.
 
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