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Organising thoughts and putting them into words?

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Atlas746

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(N.B. I should say from the outset, I'm posting this in the depression forum simply because I think that's one of the main issues I'm suffering from; but the thrust of the post isn't strictly limited to depression

I think it’s very difficult to organise your thoughts when you’re suffering from mental health issues. My experience, at least, is that you might have one big problem which is (broadly) an open-and-shut matter to identify; you have depression, or an eating disorder, or (as in my case) social anxiety. Without knowing the precise in's and out's of how it's affecting you, necessarily, you can be reasonably confident in saying that you have problem X, Y or Z.

The problem is that I've also got a near endless list of other problems or concerns, and it becomes almost impossible to separate the ones which are symptoms of my poor mental health, from the ones that might actually be causing it (or at least making it worse), from the ones that are completely unrelated to.

I want to know that the fact I can't concentrate on school work is because I'm not eating properly, for example, or if it's simply because I'm innately lazy or work-shy; or that going to the gym every day is having a good/very good/very bad/absolutely no impact on my social anxiety; or whether focusing on finding a relationship right now would solve my social anxiety, or if instead I should actually be dealing with my social anxiety as the first step towards finding a relationship. I think that if people went to a doctor every time they felt nervous about asking a girl out, or got stressed during exam times, most hospitals would be stretched to breaking point almost instantly; but, no matter how hard I try to reflect on my mental state, I can't say whether I suffer from these problems to the same extent that others do, or whether my mental health making problems like these worse (and if so, then to what extent).

These are all just fairly generic examples that I hope illustrate my point but, in short, it's become impossible for me to separate causes from symptoms, and to know which problems are related to one another - and, by extension, it becomes impossible to formulate any sort of plan for dealing with a single one of them effectively, let alone all of them.

I can only apologise for any parts of this thread which are chaotically incoherent (which I suspect, in all likelihood, is the entire thing). I want to start trying to get help, whether that's through counselling in-person, or talking to a friend, or from forums like this, but at the moment I feel like I can't even begin to explain my problems. I doubt that my problems are significantly worse or complicated than those of others, it's just that, as of yet, I've been completely unable to clearly articulate them, even to myself.

The question I would like to put to anyone who thinks they can answer it is, how do you organise your thoughts on the state of your mental health? How do you identify a good starting point from a constantly shifting vortex of inter-connected problems and concerns?
If anyone has overcome this hurdle themselves, or if any of what I've said resonates, and you want to share a similar experience, I'd be profoundly grateful. If anyone wants to speak privately about any part of what I've written, you're more than welcome to message me.


Thanks to anyone who's managed to get to the end of this
˜Atlas
 
QuietDrew

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My dad (who battles with depression like myself) always tells to keep a journal and write things down. Maybe try that, if you haven't.
 
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What_Am_I_Doing

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Thank you for sharing this. The post has really hit home for me as I can rarely describe what I’m feeling/thinking or what’s making me worse/better. I just know I’m overall scared

I’m also trying to find some way to organise my thoughts and to make sense of it all. I wish you all the luck and hope you find the advise which you need and will help you.

:grouphug:
 
OCDguy

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For me I would say consider what are the priorities (e.g. work, home life etc.). Then move onto the things again which are a priority. If there is nothing deemed to be urgent, move onto the things that are causing the biggest headaches. Of course one person's perception of priorities may differ from another's. Perhaps one way of weighing it up is material security, personal well being, equipping ourselves with the tools needed to move forward and inner peace.
 
megirl

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Hi and :welcome:

I find making a list of what's most urgent and what's not so urgent.
And make a goal do one thing a day or what works for you.
Writing a journal has always helped me lots. Then when things got real tough and I was under the care of a psychologist in my last hospital admission I gave her my journals (I was past the point of caring) it did help her to help her (so it turned out)
 
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