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sculptor david

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I wondered if there are any other members that suffer from intrusive thoughts ,that i might be able to chat with and see how they are coping with this problem :unsure:....David
 
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I do, David, I always thought it was anxiety- turns out the line between ocd and anxiety is just blurry. My condition has always been treated like depression and panic disorder, I know how to cope with them, but with OCD I'm kind of lost, too.
For now I was taught one trick to anchor myself back to reality: as soon as the thought settles in, look at concrete things, such as my hand, and to analyze them superficially. Do not think about the hand, just look at how smooth or wrinkly it is, how the nails have a different color, and so on. In my experience it is confusing at first, because the thought needs to happen, but I believe that with practice this might help a little.
 
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Hello Louizard...:)..what a lovely name you have ,and thank you so much for your reply,0CD is a horrible condition and can cause so much stress I have been experiencing it for such a long time now,your advice regarding looking at my hand and studying the wrinkles etc is something i must try ...in my case that would take all day at my age ,,re the wrinkles:doh:..in my case when the thoughts occur i say to myself destroy this stupid thought dissmiss it as utter rubbish and forget it ,eventually in the hope that my mind will realise how stupid it is ...I understand millions of people experience nasty thoughts through the day ,but unhappily is ocd sufferers they tend to stick with us but im sure in time they will fade ,i do hope so in your case and thank you again for your kind reply :) and send my love to your beautiful country ...David in cold grey england...
 
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Hello David!

The story of mine is that I was coping with OCD and hopefully I am getting better now. I understand how awful intrusive thought can be. It engulfs your mind and you loose control totally.

First of all, I really hope you get better. I think you have to talk to a doctor about this to prescribe proper medications as well and guide you through... It really helps

You always have to tell yourself that this will go away. This WILL NOT stick with you your whole life (as much as I am scared of this sometimes, it never happens).

You also have to always remember, that YOU ARE YOURSELF AND WILL ALWAYS BE. That you are right here at the moment and you are OKAY. Look around and see that nothing actually happens to you.

I know thoughts sometimes can get extremely intrusive. When you get them, always have another person that you can describe it to and analyse. This will help you to understand the situation and be rational.

All the best
 
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Hello Sofya ..thank you so much for your lovely message ocd is a horribly thing to deal with ,i have tried medications before but in all cases found them no help whatsoever never mind the side effects making things worse :low: my way of dealing with them is to say to myself dismiss this idiotic thought as utter rubbish and forget it it takes some time to train ones mind into accepting its rubbish but hopefully in time it will fade ,,do take care Sofya and you will be free of them in time i,m sure.I have sent you a picture of one of my sculptures :)) David
 
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Hi David, OCD here too. I've just come off a 3 day episode actually. This one was bad - nothing I did worked in getting the thoughts to stop.

I used to do the same as you -- berrating the thoughts, telling the OCD that no, you don't get to play today, bugger off.
And sometimes, that worked. The most recent one, well it didn't work at all. It made it worse.

(I obsess, more than compulse. I loop on a thought and it's like i get stuck: this one was about a public figure, because he admitted having conditions very similar to mine, and I felt seen. I looped about writing him to tell him how he inspired me, but it degraded into 'if I don't get this message to him, he's going to die and it'll be all on me'. )

I can't remember where I heard about this method, but after practicing it a LOT, it's helped. maybe it can help you too.

I sit with something calming playing on youtube. (there are fireplaces with piano music that I particularly like, but if you search 'calming music' on youtube, there are hundreds of kinds) I sit somewhere comfy, or lay down. Deep breathing, as much as I can while the brain panics.

I imagine a bench. In a park, in a city, in the woods - anywhere. I focus on the bench; what color is it, what's it made of. (sometimes i can't get that to come in, so I move on)

I imagine myself walking over to the bench, and sitting down. (sometimes I can describe the weather, if the grass is wet with dew, if my cat is there with me; sometimes i can't because of the thoughts)

Then I picture a wide sidewalk in front of me, about 3 arms' lengths away. It runs right to left, and there's crowds of people on it, all walking and pushing by.

These 'people' are my thoughts.
The objective being; watch the thoughts walk by without allowing them to stop and stay. Observe them, without getting entwined in them.

There's always one SOB who breaks from the crows and comes towards me, yelling about something ('why aren't you writing that letter, he's doing to DIE and it's all your fault! Have you checked all his social media yet? if you don't, he's going to'...you get the idea).

My job here, is to say 'that's great. but this is not the time. i'm busy, but i'll get to you later.' or, 'I hear you, I can hear you're scared. It's ok, I'll hear you later, but right now I'm doing something else.' (whatever phrase feels right, along the lines of 'hey, i see you, i get it, and i'll hear you later.')

The thought then has to stomp back to the crowd, and carry on. Other thoughts pop out sometimes, often it's the same one. Every time, I take a deep breath, and with empathy, repeat what I've said to it before.

The empathy, and compassion part, they're new. My OCD isn't used to that, and often I visualize the thought looking surprised, and at the very least, taking a step back before starting again.

This didn't work for me on the first try. It took about 2 weeks of doing this every day after coffee, for me to really see a difference. Some days, it was a disaster. I'd make myself some tea, have a cookie, and try again. Gently. As if I was speaking to someone panicking in front of me. As if it was a child. Anything, to remind me to be compassionate, instead of angry or trying to force it to stop.

I've been doing this now about 3-4 weeks. The episode I had a few days ago was the first really bad one since I started trying this. And I regressed back into force for the first day and a half. I got angry with it, I fought it, and I ended up spiraling into a bad place.

I still kept up the bench thing, a few times a day, even when it failed and I yelled at the thought in the scenario.

Being gentle with myself is still hard. I fail, a lot. But after a while of gently going back in, and repeating the scenario, trying to bring empathy and compassion, eventually it worked. My spiraling decreased yesterday evening, after another bench-scenario. It was a lot of work, don't get me wrong, it's not easy.

But after doing it again this morning, the intrusive thoughts were a lot quieter. There were other thoughts in there 'you should do laundry today', 'maybe I'll go for a walk' too. The overwhelming presence of the OCD thoughts were weaker. It was easier to say 'hey, busy right now, but i'll get to you later'.

I know different things work for different people. The distraction thing sometimes works with me, but not always. I have a few tools stashed away to cope, when one fails.

Maybe the bench thing will work for you. Maybe something someone else posts will.
But know that you're definitely not alone. A lot more people suffer, often silently, than we think, or can recognize.

I hope you have a wonderful day/night. :)
 
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Hi Mouseling,

What a nice mouse you have, it is yours right?

You know, the most powerful thing to make bullies stop bullying you is to say, 'Oh it is nice to hear', 'Thank you for your compliment!' or laugh at them

My doctor says that at times you can just create jokes about whatever bothers you at the moment as well..
 
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Ha, funny you should say that -- I do tend to joke about things that bother me. It does help to laugh at them sometimes!

The mouse - is not mine. It's a free to use image from a google search; in that picture, I am the mouse, imagining being safely held and protected. :)
 
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what lovely people you all are i often wonder why we are the people cursed by nasty thoughts when we try to be good and kind to everyone we meet and yet we struggle through life unlike bad people that just seem to sail through life with ease ...take care everyone :)) David
 
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It is not up to us too choose..
Plus fighting with whatever difficulties we face in life makes us stronger.
Take care everyone))
 
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yes i suffer from ocd with compulsions of touching things. I know what it's like, I've been struggling with it for over 5 years and there's nothing I can do after each new day makes me obsessed. If I don't do something, I feel a lot of discomfort. I think the only option is to set up a plan of action, give yourself time for compulsions and then embrace these obsessions and not do compulsions, unfortunately for me it repeats itself, it depends on the character.
 
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