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Now I've got vitreous detachment in my left eye. What else can go wrong?

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I've had moving images at the periphery of my left eye for almost a week, and no, it's NOT psychosis. It's vitreous detachment: the eye is formed of a gel-like substance called the vitreous body and this has come away from the wall of the retina (which lines the back of the eye) - hence the images. It looks like a movie is playing at the edge of my vision. A nurse at the local hospital told me what it is and that there's no cure or treatment.

Apparently, it's just a result of aging. Got to go to a specialist eye unit at the hospital tomorrow for more tests.

I would have thought bipolar was enough to cope with, without all the work stress I've had for months and now this. I just feel I'm cursed. Really seriously cheesed off with life.
 
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That sucks GK. How did the appointment go?
 
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Saw someone in A&E (ER for our American friends) on Friday night - after a wait of just five hours (Brits will realise this is not unusual for emergency services on the NHS). He thought he'd referred me urgently to an eye clinic at same hospital the next morning. He hadn't because the clinic has been M-F only since the beginning of the pandemic last March. Absurd miscommunication in the circumstances: what if it was a TIA (mini stroke)?

So, Sunday evening it was getting worse so my mum and I went to another major teaching hospital in South London (the one featured often on telly) where I was told I had PVD (posterior vitreous detachment) by a nurse who passed by, just by me describing my symptoms. She said it wasn't serious but would persist for a few months (I suspect that by then, the brain is used to seeing it and ignores it more).

So, because I'd had it up to here with it all by then, mum and I decided to go home and for me to visit the clinic the next day. I rang up, told the nurse who answered my symptoms, who said to come in directly and that it wasn't PVD. What are you expected to believe? However, the opthalmologist - who didn't listen to a word I said when describing the symptoms - disagreed with her and diagnosed PVD!!!

What a shambles! So, PVD or not, that is the question. Or, TIA (transitory ischaemic attack or mini stroke), is that perhaps the question? Not very reassured, and now plagued by these moving images that won't go away unless I keep my eyes closed - not very practical!

That's how it went, Wishbone. I wish I could say something more positive. How familiar this experience with the NHS will be to most of us in this benighted country.

The only good thing is that if they are right, this isn't serious. The worst case scenario is that I'm right and they're missing something very serious indeed. Stop the world I wanna get off...
 
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Oh God yes, an all too familiar story. But yeah, it does sound more like PVD rather than a TIA because the latter are pretty brief aren't they? I've had a migraine that was pretty indistinguishable from a TIA, scary things.
So it's just a case of having to put up with it now, huh? How wonderful!
 
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It is, Wishbone, but my brother in Australia sent me a link to a website he's found on PVD (and he is married to a nurse and works in a hospital himself). It explained it well and helped allay my fears, once I'd decided I actually did have it!

But the best thing by far is that my GP called me today (she had to check in on work and my BP symptoms anyway) and she explained fully what the opthalmologist did and saw, so now I am calmer about it. It's not wonderful seeing things out of the corner of your eye all the time, but the literature says that it will go away or at least reduce in a couple of months. I wonder if that's because your brain adapts, but it could also be that the eye has healed from the detachment from the retinal wall, which after all must be a trauma for the body: like a building that has been partly torn from its foundations... I don't know, I'm just surmising.

Feeling a bit better about it now. You ARE a love for sticking with me, when I've been such a narky so and so with you at times! Thank you.

You look after yourself too: I hope your depression lifts a little soon. Hugs, Ginger. x
 
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@Ginger Kitten I also had PVD on my left eye sincec ast October. I see these black specks floating in my eye. I also see rays of light in the left corner of my eye.

The ophtalmologist dilated my pupils and he said that the important part is that the retina is not compromised. PVD is not dangerousl by itself but in certain occassions it can cause retinal dettachment. You have to follow up your condition very closely and if it gets worse ( i.e you strart sering darker images ) you need to go quickly tob the doctor.

In my case PVD has not gone away or improved. It started on octobrr 2020
 
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@Ginger Kitten I also had PVD on my left eye sincec ast October. I see these black specks floating in my eye. I also see rays of light in the left corner of my eye.

The ophtalmologist dilated my pupils and he said that the important part is that the retina is not compromised. PVD is not dangerousl by itself but in certain occassions it can cause retinal dettachment. You have to follow up your condition very closely and if it gets worse ( i.e you strart sering darker images ) you need to go quickly tob the doctor.

In my case PVD has not gone away or improved. It started on octobrr 2020
Thank you for your reply Marianda, it's kind of you to share your experience. It's really strange though, I don't have the typical presentation for this condition, of floaters and flashing lights, but the 'movie' in the corner of the eye I mentioned. However, when my GP rang me about it earlier today, she explained the Opthalmologist had used a certain instrument which would have allowed him to see the detachment, so I felt a bit better; at least I know what I am dealing with now, and it is what they said it is. I was concerned it was something worse, because it wasn't flashing lights and floaters.

Thank you for your advice, I will look out for those signs of retinal detachment and go at once to A&E if I notice them.

I am sorry you too have gone through this and that it hasn't improved in 5 months; perhaps it will eventually.

With all good wishes, Ginger.
 
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Saw someone in A&E (ER for our American friends) on Friday night - after a wait of just five hours (Brits will realise this is not unusual for emergency services on the NHS). He thought he'd referred me urgently to an eye clinic at same hospital the next morning. He hadn't because the clinic has been M-F only since the beginning of the pandemic last March. Absurd miscommunication in the circumstances: what if it was a TIA (mini stroke)?

So, Sunday evening it was getting worse so my mum and I went to another major teaching hospital in South London (the one featured often on telly) where I was told I had PVD (posterior vitreous detachment) by a nurse who passed by, just by me describing my symptoms. She said it wasn't serious but would persist for a few months (I suspect that by then, the brain is used to seeing it and ignores it more).

So, because I'd had it up to here with it all by then, mum and I decided to go home and for me to visit the clinic the next day. I rang up, told the nurse who answered my symptoms, who said to come in directly and that it wasn't PVD. What are you expected to believe? However, the opthalmologist - who didn't listen to a word I said when describing the symptoms - disagreed with her and diagnosed PVD!!!

What a shambles! So, PVD or not, that is the question. Or, TIA (transitory ischaemic attack or mini stroke), is that perhaps the question? Not very reassured, and now plagued by these moving images that won't go away unless I keep my eyes closed - not very practical!

That's how it went, Wishbone. I wish I could say something more positive. How familiar this experience with the NHS will be to most of us in this benighted country.

The only good thing is that if they are right, this isn't serious. The worst case scenario is that I'm right and they're missing something very serious indeed. Stop the world I wanna get off...
You know, I just went through something similar. It looked like little grey puffs of smoke out of my periphery vision. Was certain I had retina detachment, went to specialist last week, and she just kind of laughed and knew exactly what I was describing w the smoke and said my eyes are totally healthy, not to worry, it's another fun thing about ageing. Weird. But a relief.
 
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i don't know why she laughed, that seems a bit dismissive, especially as you were right to suspect retinal detachment, given your symptoms. I am relieved for you too though, it's a terrifying thing to have to go through.

I saw my own optician yesterday because I wanted a second opinion, as the opthalmologist wasn't listening to me throughout the appointment and I felt that wasn't good enough.

I have been right twice about my health when medics have been wrong, and in both cases, there was something very seriously wrong with me: a goitre with hot nodules on my thyroid gland (in the end I had to have surgery to correct this, so that was medical negligence) and bipolar, where GPs and pdocs got my diagnosis wrong for 24 years (half my lifetime at the time), when I'd been telling them for about 15 years that I had it. So that's why I don't always trust the judgement of doctors: they've got it badly wrong in the past where I'm concerned. I feel you know your own body better than anyone.
 
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