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Sorry if reply shows more than once. I tried deleting because I saw 2 replies from me, then I didn't see it at all . Glad you are doing better.
Thank you for replying. You have been through a huge amount. You are a great survivor.
 
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I was given this diagnosis sometime ago. I have never fully accepted it. I can be highly sensitive and sometimes controlling.
But I have had stable relationships for the most part. Held down jobs.
I have had addictions. Shoplifting, booze and gambling. Not in any particular order.
I just think terminology can be quite simplistic and doesn't capture the entire person.
I have a book drop the disorder I intend to read sometime soon that argues they are too simplistic and perhaps unhelpful.
The terminology.
I'm not doing badly these days. I drink much less. The stealing is an issue. Please don't tell me the risks. I'm 47. I know the risks. Have been caught. I know its wrong.
I know I have an issue with emotional regulation. But I teach and despite daily provoking I handle myself OK.
It's just when I drink I find it harder to regulate.
I know this text is rambling and it's hard to see the point of it but I just had to write it.
Drop the disorder by Jo Watson. I gave bought it too. They have a useful Facebook site called Drop the disorder.
 
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Lucy is a specialist in anti diagnosis. Anti labelling.
 
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In what way did internalising catch your attention?
 
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'I'm concentrating at keeping the booze at bay plus occasional shoplifting. Once I get them under wraps will move back to DBT.
They started as mechanisms to deal with stress and alienation but have taken on lives of their own now.
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Hi bobbyewing. It occurs to me that DBT might help you to deal with the drinking and shoplifting: 'opposite action' springs immediately to mind.

I've got a diagnosis of bipolar disorder, with possible bpd traits (not confirmed), but I realised DBT would help me, due to the fact that its main aim is emotional regulation, and of course, bipolar is a disorder of emotional dysregulation. Periodically, I look at my DBT notes again, as I find I need to remind myself of them. If you found DBT methods useful before, is it possible you might do so again? Kind regards, GK.
 
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In what way did internalising catch your attention?
Hi, I don't trust my diagnosis, especially at the time of diagnosis. I am not familiar with this book prior and looked it up.. That stood out. Everyone hurts some times. Maybe if the psychiatrist had listened more instead of quickly labeling, it would have been more helpful. The take away was the feeling of rejection and that my feelings were not valid. I am problematic and need to hide that. Internalizing at least for me. Unreachable. Felt that way. Interesting to see it written somewhere else.
 
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I have the book about six months and have not read it all.
Mental health issues are often valid reactions to a crazy society or events. Quite natural. This is often over looked.
Everybody is unique and that is often over looked.
Psychology is a young science and should have a warning label to that effect.
 
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I have heard people say that before, that mental illness is a valid reaction to outside events. I've got to be honest, I don't believe that. Before I had my first episode of bipolar disorder, I coped with life seamlessly - because I was stable and well and had been all my life. Bipolar changed that for good and made me less able to function in life; it still does. I think sometimes we just have to allow that we have a condition that affects us adversely and take steps to alleviate that, in order to stay as well as possible. But I respect that you hold the opposite view; that's fine, I think we all have to deal with our situation in the way that suits us best. Kind regards, GK.
 
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On my medical records is BPD and severe depression (partial remission). This was diagnosed in 2005. At the time I was severely depressed.

However years later in 2011 I lost a baby. I was not having any severe nor moderate depression prior. The doctor assumed my symptoms were due to depression due to prior diagnosis.

I have an HMO so I don't always see the primary doctor assigned. The doctor doesn't know me. I see any doctor available so they look at records, missing grief, a reaction to an event I was marked as depressed and found out that my records said my depression had returned when I went to see the doctor for stomach pain and feeling exhausted a few years later.

I had to explain that I was sad because I had a loss. I also had to explain that I know what depression feels like and that I didn't think my feeling tired at that time was related because I was happy. Before blood work was ordered I had to listen to how I was depressed.

My blood work came back very low in iron and potassium. (Reasons for being tired)

The tricky part is that I am often depressed (mild to moderate). I can usually manage fairly well. These past few months not so well. The depression is back.

I think there is trust in both views. Situational
 
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That should have said truth in both views not trust.

But since trust was written, it has a place in this or is missing.
 
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I have heard people say that before, that mental illness is a valid reaction to outside events. I've got to be honest, I don't believe that. Before I had my first episode of bipolar disorder, I coped with life seamlessly - because I was stable and well and had been all my life. Bipolar changed that for good and made me less able to function in life; it still does. I think sometimes we just have to allow that we have a condition that affects us adversely and take steps to alleviate that, in order to stay as well as possible. But I respect that you hold the opposite view; that's fine, I think we all have to deal with our situation in the way that suits us best. Kind regards, GK.
My apologies. I know there is cases like yours that are definitively not just a reaction to the craziness we call life. I know there is a distinction. It's often a mix or just one of the two-nature or life events.
It just angers me that we create crazy societies and then shove some people to mental health facilities rather than fixing the societal issue. I emphasis some. In Ireland we have a housing issue. Causes a lot of mental health problems.
 
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Yes, bobbyewing, I understand your point completely, and there is validity in what you say. Sign of the Times's contribution underlines that. It's a double-edged sword: you need a diagnosis to get appropriate treatment but labelling comes with its own set of problems. I don't like the idea that I'm saddled with bipolar for life, but my experience has taught me that it's never going away. That's hard to accept, but unless I do, I won't be able to live successfully with my condition. Best wishes, Ginger.
 
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