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New realization-the nature of the voice

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I just realized something important while I was lying awake in bed last night. Background: In my head what happens is that I will have an explicit thought (in my own voice). The voice will then apparently "comment" on that thought. The "comments" are usually very negative and take on a judgmental tone. Up until just now, I believed that the voice was another part of me harshly judging my every explicit thought and opinion-perhaps as a result of negative messages from abusive people in my life that I ended up internalizing. Then, last night, something funny happened. As I was thinking about something (in my own explicit voice), the voice made a number of comments in rapid succession. Except the comments were contradictory in nature and did not seem logically related to what I was saying at all. In other words, it appears that what I have hitherto perceived as "responses" from the voice, are actually just these repetitive secondary thoughts that come up in my mind (from memory) - unrelated to my original explicit thoughts. Thus, it appears that it is not that I secretly hate myself, disagree with my own thoughts, or necessarily judge myself so harshly. Instead, it seems that the neurons in my brain are misfiring due to some sort of chemical imbalance- and that my brain subsequently tries to apply meaning to it (a meaning that is probably derived from life experience with harsh and judgmental people) by interpreting it as a "voice", with its own opinions, thoughts, and desires. Anyway, I do think that this realization will, over time, help me cope better with the voice. Would like to hear if anyone else had any similar realizations?
 
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I've had plenty of realizations regarding voices but in the opposite direction.

For me the voice I hear is very real, he has his own emotions, thoughts and desires.

A completely unique and independent mind that shares my body with me, according to a book I'm reading (The Daemon - A guide to your extraordinary secret self) that backs up what I've thought for several years says that scientists have discovered that humans have two minds inhabiting the same body, we (the Eidolon) occupy the left dominant hemisphere and this other mind (the Daemon) occupies the right non-dominant hemisphere.

They've even gone as far as to put the left hemisphere to sleep using drugs or hypnosis and communicated with the Daemon directly.
 
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I've had plenty of realizations regarding voices but in the opposite direction.

For me the voice I hear is very real, he has his own emotions, thoughts and desires.

A completely unique and independent mind that shares my body with me, according to a book I'm reading (The Daemon - A guide to your extraordinary secret self) that backs up what I've thought for several years says that scientists have discovered that humans have two minds inhabiting the same body, we (the Eidolon) occupy the left dominant hemisphere and this other mind (the Daemon) occupies the right non-dominant hemisphere.

They've even gone as far as to put the left hemisphere to sleep using drugs or hypnosis and communicated with the Daemon directly.
That is super interesting. I suspect that voices may be caused by different things in different people. To me, my voice is most certainly a part of me.
 
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I had a voice commenting on what I was doing. I put an ear plug in my ear and it went away. I still here the voices that repeat nonsense phrases all day, but the ones commenting on my life I do not hear when I have an ear plug in the ear that the voices are coming from.
 
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I had a voice commenting on what I was doing. I put an ear plug in my ear and it went away. I still here the voices that repeat nonsense phrases all day, but the ones commenting on my life I do not hear when I have an ear plug in the ear that the voices are coming from.
That is awesome! I actually read that just the other day, that many people are helped by putting an ear plug in. Especially the left ear apparently. I'll try that too soon.
 
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Hey Cat, i was wondering, how many times a day do you use that (explicit voice ) of yours in your head. Also, do you only hear voices when you use that voice of yours in your head?

Also great realization! i too hear voices and have came to a realization like that once.
 
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Hey Cat, i was wondering, how many times a day do you use that (explicit voice ) of yours in your head. Also, do you only hear voices when you use that voice of yours in your head?

Also great realization! i too hear voices and have came to a realization like that once.
Hi there! Thanks for your question. The explicit voice has been really prominent lately. I think it has to do with my brain coming back online after I stopped medications. Apparently racing thoughts are very common during withdrawal. It drives me nuts though. Wears me out. So yeah during the day I use the explicit voice pretty much constantly from the minute I wake up until I finally fall asleep. I'm expecting that to calm down once I'm through these pesky withdrawals. The voices come no matter what, but it does seem like too much explicit thought makes it worse. When you use explicit thought your language area is activated which makes the voices worse. Hope that answers your question. C.
 
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Hi there! Thanks for your question. The explicit voice has been really prominent lately. I think it has to do with my brain coming back online after I stopped medications. Apparently racing thoughts are very common during withdrawal. It drives me nuts though. Wears me out. So yeah during the day I use the explicit voice pretty much constantly from the minute I wake up until I finally fall asleep. I'm expecting that to calm down once I'm through these pesky withdrawals. The voices come no matter what, but it does seem like too much explicit thought makes it worse. When you use explicit thought your language area of the brain-Wernickes area- is activated which makes the voices worse. Hope that answers your question. C.
 
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Hi there! Thanks for your question. The explicit voice has been really prominent lately. I think it has to do with my brain coming back online after I stopped medications. Apparently racing thoughts are very common during withdrawal. It drives me nuts though. Wears me out. So yeah during the day I use the explicit voice pretty much constantly from the minute I wake up until I finally fall asleep. I'm expecting that to calm down once I'm through these pesky withdrawals. The voices come no matter what, but it does seem like too much explicit thought makes it worse. When you use explicit thought your language area is activated which makes the voices worse. Hope that answers your question. C.
I seem to use mine as soon as i wake up too! . Could you go into detail on what you say with your explicit voice?
 
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I seem to use mine as soon as i wake up too! . Could you go into detail on what you say with your explicit voice?
Hi Kingyee. Hard to go provide much useful detail about my explicit voice (my primary inner voice), because I seem to be using it for everything lately. Like I have constant racing thoughts from the moment I wake up until well after I have gone to bed. It is like every thought I have has become explicit. Today I am marking my students' presentations and in my head I hear my own voice saying "...and this one..yes.... save as PDF...in folder on desktop...yes...there we go...next....Thomas Somerset....where are you?....there you are...lets see here....save as PDF....ah...I better print every hand-out out so I have them while in class...it will be easier to justify my grades then....yes...lets see here.." and so it goes...all day long...without end. This rambling of my explicit voice seems to have intensified after I dropped Abilify cold-turkey. I am therefore expecting it to calm down once my system has re-adjusted to a life without medications.
 
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Hi Kingyee. Hard to go provide much useful detail about my explicit voice (my primary inner voice), because I seem to be using it for everything lately. Like I have constant racing thoughts from the moment I wake up until well after I have gone to bed. It is like every thought I have has become explicit. Today I am marking my students' presentations and in my head I hear my own voice saying "...and this one..yes.... save as PDF...in folder on desktop...yes...there we go...next....Thomas Somerset....where are you?....there you are...lets see here....save as PDF....ah...I better print every hand-out out so I have them while in class...it will be easier to justify my grades then....yes...lets see here.." and so it goes...all day long...without end. This rambling of my explicit voice seems to have intensified after I dropped Abilify cold-turkey. I am therefore expecting it to calm down once my system has re-adjusted to a life without medications.
Hello cat, so durring that whole time as your grading papers are voices commenting on all of that?
 
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Cat, What do you mean by an explicit voice? Is it the voice that you know is your own mind that you can control which is your own speaking in your thoughts, or it is it the hallucinated voice of your illness that people usually have no control over?
 
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Hello cat, so durring that whole time as your grading papers are voices commenting on all of that?
Yes. As I am thinking in my normal thinking voice (the explicit voice) the other voice (the one that seems separate from me) keeps constantly commenting on what I'm thinking (I realize of course it is not actually commenting on anything, it's a series of neurons in my head that keep firing together over and over again, hence the dull repetitive nature of the voice) saying "oh my god (my name)" "are you fucking retarded" "what the fuck do you mean by that" "shut your mouth (my name)" and my favorites "you should not take your medication, drink coffee, have a smoke, have ice tea, or eat anything at all".
It's extremely hard to work on this phD under these conditions.
 
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Cat, What do you mean by an explicit voice? Is it the voice that you know is your own mind that you can control which is your own speaking in your thoughts, or it is it the hallucinated voice of your illness that people usually have no control over?
My own mind. I also know the other one is .y own mind though.
 
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Yes. As I am thinking in my normal thinking voice (the explicit voice) the other voice (the one that seems separate from me) keeps constantly commenting on what I'm thinking (I realize of course it is not actually commenting on anything, it's a series of neurons in my head that keep firing together over and over again, hence the dull repetitive nature of the voice) saying "oh my god (my name)" "are you fucking retarded" "what the fuck do you mean by that" "shut your mouth (my name)" and my favorites "you should not take your medication, drink coffee, have a smoke, have ice tea, or eat anything at all".
It's extremely hard to work on this phD under these conditions.
Is it multiple vocies ?
 
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