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Lycanthrope

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Hello forum. My name is Vincent and I am a freshman at Columbia College Chicago. I am involved in a writing class in which I am doing a paper studying the culture of Schizophrenia. I am posting a set of questions and would appreciate if those diagnosed with Schizophrenia answer them. All answers will be kept 100% confidential, I won't even mention screen names if that would be a problem for some of you. I appreciate all those who take the time to respond.

1. What is your age?
2. How long have you been diagnosed with Schizophrenia? What were your feelings regarding your diagnosis?
3. Where do you feel you fit into larger society?
4. Do you feel there are categories or a hierarchy among Schizophrenics? Where do you feel you fit in among others with Schizophrenia?
5. How do you view others with Schizophrenia?
 
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I was caught with my pants down then realised it was depot-time

Thank you for supplying the answers in your questions. Never let anyone accuse you of semantic presumption!

(1) I am ageless, like an old, old mountain bled dry by the slow winds. I am renewed and reborn, like water, at one moment glistening in the eye of a hawk and another plunging freefall into a dissipating ocean.

(2) I was diagnosed with schizophrenia in my mother's womb. She complained of strange sensations emanating from the unborn and so the psychiatrists came like pseudo-Magi. They bore gifts of sulpiride, carbamazepine and off-label propanalol. They determined the validity of the diagnosis by careful obeservation of foetal reponses to electro-shock and careful prodding.

(3) Yes, indeed I do. Some schizophrenics from middle and upper class backgrounds are allowed to call themselves bipolar and this makes them much sexier. They are also allowed to express themselves floridly and people find this tremendously charming. Some schizpohrenics are allowed to carry small wood-axes, like Jack Nicholson in the Shining - this gives them especial prestige, especially whenn they are amongst vulnerable groups or at care review meetings. I have also observed that schizophrenics with facial scars attain a very high status, especially if they sometimes drop inopportune anecdotes about thei desire to assassinate famous people; incidentally, amonst this last subgroup I haven't yet determined why but the ones who express a desire to assassinate Simon Cowell tend to always cause the most fear and therefore obtain the most respect. But by and large the schizophrenic with the most respect and social standing amongst the other schhizophrenics if the one that says, "how dare you use that filthy, obscene language of psychiatry against me, against yourselves? Can't you see it is your oppression, you are self-oppresing - and that is obscene?" however, their status doesnt usually last long when it's identified by the brain-specialists that they are disrupting the group and so they end up being re-diagnosed. This means they are then shunned by the schizophrenics as an outsider. You will often see them, hanging around outside the old schizophrenic haunts, sometimes peeping through the windows. By the way to answer the second question in your fourth question I always fited in very well with other schizophrenicss. My days hanging out with Jesus were the best years of my life. He really was the king of us all and I was lucky to get into his group. However, as you may know, the establishment killed him, and theyve gone on killing us, the knowing, the unknowing and affirming and the denying, messiahs all. Which sort of answers you first part in fullness: its our wonderful schizophrenic messiahs thatget the most status and a few of them have even broken out into the mainstteam, like jesus, like philip k dick,..

(4) Mostly through my optical nerves but sometimes in my imagination occasionally in my dreams.
 
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rasselas

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I should add that I find your questions, whether or not they are well-intentioned, as deeply offensive.

One useful measure of testing the validity of a question is the old trick of swapping out the main nouns as it were. So, try re-reading through your questions and replacing each mention of 'schizophrenia' with say 'cancer' or 'suicidality'.

Where did you get this idea that there is a 'schizophrenic culture'? I mean, maybe I am wrong, maybe they are out there and I just havent seen them. Perhaps in a way it's a kind of romantic fairy tale. But, as far as I'm concerned, that's all it is...

But, nice of you to want to at least engage with people with schizophrenia. Take care and keep em peeled!
 
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I should add that I find your questions, whether or not they are well-intentioned, as deeply offensive.

One useful measure of testing the validity of a question is the old trick of swapping out the main nouns as it were. So, try re-reading through your questions and replacing each mention of 'schizophrenia' with say 'cancer' or 'suicidality'.

Where did you get this idea that there is a 'schizophrenic culture'? I mean, maybe I am wrong, maybe they are out there and I just havent seen them. Perhaps in a way it's a kind of romantic fairy tale. But, as far as I'm concerned, that's all it is...

But, nice of you to want to at least engage with people with schizophrenia. Take care and keep em peeled!
Thank you very much for your answers. I am extremely sorry if you found my questions offensive; the absolute last thing I wish to do is harm the feelings of anyone here. Like you said, my only intention is to engage people with schizophrenia and use the information to inform those who would shun these people out of fear. I apologize for any offense, and sincerely thank you again for your time.
 
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rasselas

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okey dokey

Okay Vincent.

You know, there's a bit of schizophrenia in everyone...

You've convinced me that your motives are well-intentioned. I remain curious what you mean by the 'culture of schizophrenics'? Would you please take a little time to explain what you mean? I won't leap down your throat if you say something I disagree with. Your questions are loaded with presumptions, and I wonder how you arrived at these ideas. For instance, you seem to imply that people with schizophrenia form some kind of sub-culture because of some natural affinity...

Would you explain?
 
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rasselas

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Also I must add, in case you haven't realised (I don't think by the tone of your reply that you have)... my answers to your questions were intentionally saracastic. Of course, you could interpret them if you like as schizophrenese...

although, again, that would be presumptious...

because, I'll let you in on something, Vincent....


as you may know, my friend, schizophrenia is a devastating incurable disease that lasts a lifetime....

I was diagnosed with this lifelong disease over 10 years ago...

and of course for 10 years I was treated in one way or another with medication developed specially for this terrible lifelong disease....

but here's something that may shock you... you really should hold onto your seat, but this is surely going to rock your boat....

am no longer schizophrenic...

isn't that amazing?

for over 10 years i was treated for an incurable disease and then... whoosh... it was gone... it was gone in an instant....

and I'll tell yous something else...

I'll tell you how this incredible cure occurred... this instantaneous cure....

hold tight...

i went into a room... and i sat down... i sat down and i had this terrible incurable disease called schizophrenia.... and then... o my lord... and then....

a person said, "you are no longer schizophrenic."

and there it happened.

right there. right in that instant... i swear to you Vincent over 10 years of an incurable disease and whoosh my friend, i was cured. i stood up and it was a revelation...

quite incredible, don't you think?

but i swear, absolutely true!

now please, go tell your friends!
 
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1. What is your age?
50

2. How long have you been diagnosed with Schizophrenia? What were your feelings regarding your diagnosis?

5 years. I don't have any feelings regarding the diagnosis. I just have the knowledge that some people choose to categorise and disrespect and even imprison and torture other people, in a way that is only justified in accordance with their own limited view of reality. But I don't need to feel any attachment to that kind of behaviour. The fact that some psychiatrists have habitualised distorted thought processes that allow them to imagine things that aren't true and justify a sense of superiority and their own harmful behaviour on the basis of that is really not my problem. There are things I can control and things I can't control. Obviously, I can't control action by psychiatrists and others who irrationally disown personal responsibility in favour of them, when their harmful behaviours are entrenched in law. So the feelings are not directed to being personally diagnosed as schizophrenic, but toward the more general positive ideas and principles which would tend to diminish those negative effects over time.

3. Where do you feel you fit into larger society?
I am independent, free and autonomous and connected and symbiotic with the rest of society in a wide variety of ways. However, the connection is not just with society. Society is only a subset of the universe. In the wider context I feel that I fit in with the whole perfectly, and am correctly connected and symbiotic with it, in accordance with my own nature.

4. Do you feel there are categories or a hierarchy among Schizophrenics?
I think that categorising and judging people according to arbitrary classifications, on the basis of arbitrary subjective criteria is perverse and unnatural and displays an extraordinary level of non-holistic thinking and reveals a very strange and distorted view of reality. In my view we are all different, and all equally valid. I believe hierarchies of people are divised and reinforced by a minority of people who for whatever reason have been adversely moved by their own experience and have lost touch with natural motives toward co-creation of a better future, and/or affiliative motives and that that minority through that loss of direction are motivated by things like achieveing power, status, image of superiority etc. I believe categories or hierarchies are rooted in distorted thought processes and do not serve any positive purpose.


5. Where do you feel you fit in among others with Schizophrenia?
I don't fit any of the critera which are listed as indicating this "illness" apart from hearing voices as a result of extensive use of a noisy computer (the 'gestalt' effect). So the question is to some extent irrelevant. However, I do share some things in common with other people diagnosed as having schizophrenia as a consequence of societies' attitudes. The most significant effect is that I am dissuaded and barred from economic activity and am offered financial incentives to minimise my contibution to and maximise my dependence on society through the (UK) welfare system, in common with other UK people who are labelled as having a psychiatric illness.

How do you view others with Schizophrenia?
They are all unique individuals. They are people, like anyone else. The view would be different depending on which person it was.
 
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For instance, you seem to imply that people with schizophrenia form some kind of sub-culture because of some natural affinity...

Would you explain?
I think that right there pretty much explains what I meant. In my opinion, in any group of people, there are those that will form bonds with each other based on things that they have in common. This new group of people will expand, and develop their own mannerisms and become a culture of their own.

Also thank you to all that posted answers!
My ethnography is due tomorrow so I will be working all day today to make sure it comes out well! I appreciate all the help.
 
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To everyone that helped me and those on this thread:
Yes, I know it has been a while but I haven't forgotten. I am a man of my word and I will post a copy of my paper to this website. Or post a link to it from another site. I just need to find out how to do that. I got buried in school work and my job over the last months and haven't been able to get the ball rolling on making a website for the paper. But I want to share with you all, and especially those that offered their help to me on this, because without their generosity I would have been stuck in the mud. This will be coming as soon as it can.
 
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Crap!! I somehow missed this thread! I would have loved to provide you with some answers. I did many studies on schizophrenia whilst in school. I hope you do well on your paper!
 
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