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Nearly all new COVID cases in USA are unvaccinated people

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In the USA prior to the 1990's it was pretty easy to tell the parties apart. The Republicans represented the top half of income earners-small businessmen, salary workers, etc. The Democrats represented the blue collar worker, union members, etc.. It was pretty balanced and the state of the economy usually determined which party won the majority in a given year-unless we were in a major war somewhere, that always factors in.

When Bill Clinton was elected in 1992 the Democrat Party started to morph away from strictly blue collar/union support. For example, Wall Street Banking and investment firms heavily backed Clinton. Why? You would think those folks would normally be Republicans. But the Democrat Party started to enact more pro-banking/pro-investment legislation when in office, all the while continuing to mouth the same old platitudes about unions and worker rights. They made peace with Wall Street and were funded accordingly.

Today, the Wall Street billionaires heavily back the Democrats and the Social Media billionaires do as well. Both donated generously to getting Joe Biden elected and taking back the Senate Majority.

The Democrat Party today is very liberal on social issues, but when it comes to the economy they are very pro-business, especially for Banking, Investment, Big Tech, Energy Companies, etc.. They talk about unions, but all it is is talk. At the same time they are opening up our borders to low-wage refugees from Central America, who displace union workers in construction jobs. The only way to tell them apart from Traditional Republicans is the type of business they shill for and their stand on a few red-button social issues.

Both parties advocate aggressive foreign policy by America, we had almost continual overseas wars under Bush Sr., Clinton, Bush Jr and Obama. Trump actually reduced US engagement in overseas wars and the Foreign Policy 'Elites' hated him for it. It was one of the reasons he lost the election. Biden is starting to wave the 'big stick' again, I wouldn't be surprised if we end up in another war soon.
I hated Trump, as did the vast majority of European's and was absolutely delighted when Biden beat him in the US election

To me Trump was very clearly supported by big pharma and private medical care providers and insurers. It was very clear to me at least the the Trump/Johnson plan, which was a huge part of what Brexit was all about, involved a fast track privatisation of our NHS, with US Pharma and medical care providers and insurers being the ones creaming off all the profits while the UK taxpayer continued to pay an ever escalating bill for the upkeep, maintenance and all new infrastructure.

Trump also planned to wage a trade war on the EU, using the UK as a pawn to make them accept the rip off prices US Pharma charges US citizens for drugs and medicine, this currently regulated to a large degree by the price the UK get's these for from US providers. And also to try and make them accept US produce they currently don't and won't because they are GM products or the health and safety standards of them fall a very long way below EU and UK standards.

The issue with the US economy is very much the same as the UK's economy, people have been effectively made to work for less and less each year for the past 40 years through the 'fiddling'/'rigging' of the inflation register, while the ever greedy corporates have driven prices sky high, meaning most working people in regular and very necessary low skilled jobs are constantly on the bread line and living under incredible and unnecessary levels of stress, duress and anxiety, which are even more heightened because they have had all the realistic and achievable goals people working those jobs 20-40 years ago always had taken completely out of their reach.

Their are numerous very obvious bi-products of how the US and UK economies have been run for the past 40 years and of the adverse CBT of the media of both, the US media having more actually free press not actually being as bad as the UKs, which is currently worse than even North Korea's or China's.

The biproducts it creates are:
Low productivity
Ever increasing violent and petty crime
Public disorder
Ever increasing mental illness, it's actually created a mental health pandemic
Homelessness
Poverty
Ever increasing illegal drug use
An ever growing divide between rich and poor
The emergence of 'they're dead where it doesn't count' politics

Again, by restoring genuine achievable goals and aspirations to the vast majority of the population, and paying their taxes, the wealthy could actually make far more money and live in a far safer and healthier society and environment

What has actually happened, is that institutions like the Fabien society and The Freemasons, set up to ensure the wealthy remained in power and became wealthier, but also to help raise up and give greater aspiration and opportunity to all people has been infiltrated and are most likely now headed by people who have lost all sight of the purposes for which both institutions were created and are only interested and work towards the ensuring the wealthy remain in power and become wealthier part.

After they were set up, prominent members of The Freemasons in the UK did extraordinary things in helping raise other, ordinary people up, donating large areas of land for the creation of parks and national trusts and donating from their personal wealth to help improve education and medical advances. The lunatics have taken over the asylum, the people running these institutes are all mentally ill, they absolutely have OCD, there's is for amassing more wealth than they could ever spend in a 1000 lifetimes whatever the cost, also making them narcissists, along with their inability to acknowledge that what they are doing is the devolution of humanity and the long list of consequences and biproducts it creates
 
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I hated Trump, as did the vast majority of European's and was absolutely delighted when Biden beat him in the US election

To me Trump was very clearly supported by big pharma and private medical care providers and insurers. It was very clear to me at least the the Trump/Johnson plan, which was a huge part of what Brexit was all about, involved a fast track privatisation of our NHS, with US Pharma and medical care providers and insurers being the ones creaming off all the profits while the UK taxpayer continued to pay an ever escalating bill for the upkeep, maintenance and all new infrastructure.

Trump also planned to wage a trade war on the EU, using the UK as a pawn to make them accept the rip off prices US Pharma charges US citizens for drugs and medicine, this currently regulated to a large degree by the price the UK get's these for from US providers. And also to try and make them accept US produce they currently don't and won't because they are GM products or the health and safety standards of them fall a very long way below EU and UK standards.

The issue with the US economy is very much the same as the UK's economy, people have been effectively made to work for less and less each year for the past 40 years through the 'fiddling'/'rigging' of the inflation register, while the ever greedy corporates have driven prices sky high, meaning most working people in regular and very necessary low skilled jobs are constantly on the bread line and living under incredible and unnecessary levels of stress, duress and anxiety, which are even more heightened because they have had all the realistic and achievable goals people working those jobs 20-40 years ago always had taken completely out of their reach.

Their are numerous very obvious bi-products of how the US and UK economies have been run for the past 40 years and of the adverse CBT of the media of both, the US media having more actually free press not actually being as bad as the UKs, which is currently worse than even North Korea's or China's.

The biproducts it creates are:
Low productivity
Ever increasing violent and petty crime
Public disorder
Ever increasing mental illness, it's actually created a mental health pandemic
Homelessness
Poverty
Ever increasing illegal drug use
An ever growing divide between rich and poor
The emergence of 'they're dead where it doesn't count' politics

Again, by restoring genuine achievable goals and aspirations to the vast majority of the population, and paying their taxes, the wealthy could actually make far more money and live in a far safer and healthier society and environment

What has actually happened, is that institutions like the Fabien society and The Freemasons, set up to ensure the wealthy remained in power and became wealthier, but also to help raise up and give greater aspiration and opportunity to all people has been infiltrated and are most likely now headed by people who have lost all sight of the purposes for which both institutions were created and are only interested and work towards the ensuring the wealthy remain in power and become wealthier part.

After they were set up, prominent members of The Freemasons in the UK did extraordinary things in helping raise other, ordinary people up, donating large areas of land for the creation of parks and national trusts and donating from their personal wealth to help improve education and medical advances. The lunatics have taken over the asylum, the people running these institutes are all mentally ill, they absolutely have OCD, there's is for amassing more wealth than they could ever spend in a 1000 lifetimes whatever the cost, also making them narcissists, along with their inability to acknowledge that what they are doing is the devolution of humanity and the long list of consequences and biproducts it creates
Trump did some good things and some bad things. It's understandable folks in the EU didn't care for him, he advocated on behalf of American interests-not EU interests. And he insisted NATO nations like Germany pay their fair share (which they hadn't been), Angela Merkel didn't like hearing that even though it's true. Obama, Clinton and even the Bush's were globalists, they compromised US interests on behalf of the 'greater good'. Whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing is a matter of opinion, but Trump negotiated tough trade deals with the EU, China and Mexico/Canada and he did so with the idea of improving things for Americans. No question from an economic perspective Trump was successful-unemployment was at record lows in America, real income increased for everyone-even minorities who often are on the tail end of recoveries. Trump's trade deals were great for American workers and especially farmers. The stock market climbed to record highs and inflation was a record lows. We had peace and prosperity and Trump kept us out of the overseas wars his predecessors got America into.

On the downside, Trump picked fights with everyone. It's always zero sum gains with him. He thought that by locking horns with the news media and political opponents he's impressed his followers, but people got tired of the endless tiffs. Trump gave the impression he was a good judge of character, but he made some atrocious appointments to his cabinet and other positions-then ended up sacking people quickly. Trump talked and tweeted too much, people got tired of it. I understand the news media in America are not going to give him fair coverage, but too much singing your own praises got tiresome to hear. Trumps biggest issue is he never knew when to shut up. He had great economic success, if he had let that speak for itself he would have done far better-but he could never shut up for more than a couple of days. His advisors must have been pulling their hair out, he wouldn't listen to them.
 
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Trump gave the impression he was a good judge of character, but he made some atrocious appointments to his cabinet
Given the decades of trouble between Israel and Palestine, Mike Pence going to an illegally occupied territory and declaring wine produced there 'Produce of Israel' really wasn't a good look

Not exactly un American flaunting international law and thinking your the world's policeman and can do as you please though is it? Iraq, Syria, etc etc etc

All global heads of state need to denounce the fake antisemitism that anyone criticising the Israeli Gov for it's continuing breaches of international law and atrocities against Palestine is being antisemitic, as that is where the majority of the allegations stem from. They won't though, because they constantly use it as a political tool to attack opponents supported by the media even though they know it's BS and they (the media) never ever provide an actual genuine tangible example, it's all conjecture.

They did it for 14 days of the 28 day campaign in the last UK GE to the opposition to avoid talking about policy, the BBC too, which is entirely contrary to their charter in several sections of it, their charter that their adhering to forms the basis of their contract between themselves and the audience by which the audience is legally obliged to pay a license fee to them

And then when the Labour Report was leaked that revealed 95% of all the complaints had been made by just one person, obviously trying to flood the complaints system to prevent any genuine complaints being looked at as expediently as everyone would have liked, to then be able to say the complaints system wasn't working, they didn't report it - Omission of information
 
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Given the decades of trouble between Israel and Palestine, Mike Pence going to an illegally occupied territory and declaring wine produced there 'Produce of Israel' really wasn't a good look

Not exactly un American flaunting international law and thinking your the world's policeman and can do as you please though is it? Iraq, Syria, etc etc etc

All global heads of state need to denounce the fake antisemitism that anyone criticising the Israeli Gov for it's continuing breaches of international law and atrocities against Palestine is being antisemitic, as that is where the majority of the allegations stem from. They won't though, because they constantly use it as a political tool to attack opponents supported by the media even though they know it's BS and they (the media) never ever provide an actual genuine tangible example, it's all conjecture.

They did it for 14 days of the 28 day campaign in the last UK GE to the opposition to avoid talking about policy, the BBC too, which is entirely contrary to their charter in several sections of it, their charter that their adhering to forms the basis of their contract between themselves and the audience by which the audience is legally obliged to pay a license fee to them

And then when the Labour Report was leaked that revealed 95% of all the complaints had been made by just one person, obviously trying to flood the complaints system to prevent any genuine complaints being looked at as expediently as everyone would have liked, to then be able to say the complaints system wasn't working, they didn't report it - Omission of information
Careful, you Brits played the worlds policemen for many centuries as well. America learned everything they know about world affairs and engagement from Britain. Flaunting international law didn't stop British from meddling in the affairs of Cyprus, Greece, Anatolia (before it was Turkey) and many other nations. The British Foreign Office didn't learn that from the USA, they authored it! We learned it from them.

As for Israel, didn't Sykes-Picot get authored partly by British? That set up the whole mess in the middle east.

As it is, both our nations today use military force at the drop of a hat. You can't solve the worlds issues merely with military force, but we never learn. One thing Trump tried to do was deescalate military adventurism in US foreign policy and he was castigated unmercifully by our Foreign Policy Establishment-those non elected Elites who always end up as Secretary of State in a either a Democrat or Republican administration. Both parties have become war mongerish in my view.
 
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Careful, you Brits played the worlds policemen for many centuries as well. America learned everything they know about world affairs and engagement from Britain. Flaunting international law didn't stop British from meddling in the affairs of Cyprus, Greece, Anatolia (before it was Turkey) and many other nations. The British Foreign Office didn't learn that from the USA, they authored it! We learned it from them.

As for Israel, didn't Sykes-Picot get authored partly by British? That set up the whole mess in the middle east.

As it is, both our nations today use military force at the drop of a hat. You can't solve the worlds issues merely with military force, but we never learn. One thing Trump tried to do was deescalate military adventurism in US foreign policy and he was castigated unmercifully by our Foreign Policy Establishment-those non elected Elites who always end up as Secretary of State in a either a Democrat or Republican administration. Both parties have become war mongerish in my view.
Just so we're clear, if I woke up tomorrow morning 30 years younger and the best football player who ever walked the planet, I would never represent England, I'm not patriotic, because there isn't anything Great about Britain, all the decency, integrity and humanity that once did make me proud and patriotic has long since been eroded by the mob, they've corrupted everything that was once good and decent and wholesome about Britain and as you rightly point out, the history of the Brits is nothing to be proud of.
 
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There are people out there who got the shot and still died from covid. I haven't gotten it and don't intend to.
 
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Both parties have gotten so extreme in the US that it is a dangerous situation that will likely become more so. Although I live in a v liberal city, most people I know just want common sense over 13 genders, common sense over police reform, common sense tax reform and a decent candidate to choose from over the crap we end up with. The only way I can understand anyone supporting Trump or his fellow traitors is that it is a repulsion/revolt against the now Uber-liberal Democrat party, always trying to outdo itself as to how "open minded" it can be. It's a shitstorm in the making, and we only have ourselves to blame.
 
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There are people out there who got the shot and still died from covid. I haven't gotten it and don't intend to.
Very few. Only a few thousand vaccinated people have gotten a severe case of COVID and fewer still have died from it. Out of Hundreds of Millions vaccinated. A very, very small percentage.

The top vaccines prevent severe symptoms and death, there is no question about that. If you refuse to get vaccinated that is your decision, but don't use ineffectiveness of the vaccines as your rationale-that simply isn't true. The data shows the vaccines to be very effective.
 
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Very few. Only a few thousand vaccinated people have gotten a severe case of COVID and fewer still have died from it. Out of Hundreds of Millions vaccinated. A very, very small percentage.

The top vaccines prevent severe symptoms and death, there is no question about that. If you refuse to get vaccinated that is your decision, but don't use ineffectiveness of the vaccines as your rationale-that simply isn't true. The data shows the vaccines to be very effective.
Even if I did want it I have agoraphobia. I can't even get to a doctor that I need to see. Don't think they will come to my home and do it. If anyone who is qualified wants to come here I'll do it. I'm fed up with this whole Covid thing, I wish the end of the world would come, it's all too much!
 
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Is there a source I can read because that article doesn't give one at all for this claim or to back up the claim that says: "Almost all of the new cases — 99.7% —are among people who have not been vaccinated."

Apparently it's from an Associated Press analysis of CDC data. Possibly one could find the original CDC data on-line and analyze it oneself (if one could be bothered)

 
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Even if I did want it I have agoraphobia. I can't even get to a doctor that I need to see. Don't think they will come to my home and do it. If anyone who is qualified wants to come here I'll do it. I'm fed up with this whole Covid thing, I wish the end of the world would come, it's all too much!
If you're stuck in the home you're probably at low risk to catching the virus. I have to get out and circulate because I have a full time job and also take care of some family members. I do all the shopping and errands, I need the added protection from the vaccine.

In my state in the USA they are talking about bringing vaccination to stay-at-homers. Not sure where you live, but you might consult the local health department-they could probably work something out. You may only have to stick your arm out the door and they can swipe it with an alcohol pad and then give you the shot, easy as pie.
 
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Apparently it's from an Associated Press analysis of CDC data. Possibly one could find the original CDC data on-line and analyze it oneself (if one could be bothered)
That's actually quite a nice way to put it because with every claim a source should be provided and if one isn't directly provided but instead you get a "CDC said" or "People familiar with the matter said" - that isn't a direct source and anyone taking that as such should visit one of my old lecturers who would soon laugh you out of town for buying it.
How many people are doing as you suggest and analyzing the data rather than following what the media articles tell them to do, or 'implant' them with? Media is far more powerful.
 
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That's actually quite a nice way to put it because with every claim a source should be provided and if one isn't directly provided but instead you get a "CDC said" or "People familiar with the matter said" - that isn't a direct source and anyone taking that as such should visit one of my old lecturers who would soon laugh you out of town for buying it.
How many people are doing as you suggest and analyzing the data rather than following what the media articles tell them to do, or 'implant' them with? Media is far more powerful.
Well, partly that's the difference between academia and journalism. Certainly generally true that 'the media' could really up its game when it comes to presenting evidence and citing sources - especially in the internet era, when the data sources are often freely available.

Personally I think the claim presented sounds entirely plausible, but I agree they don't fully substantiate it.
 
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...I made a brief effort to see if I could find the original CDC data, but gave up.
 
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