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Naracist - I hate myself

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Helpless43

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Has anyone else been diagnosed with bi polar and now have I read about naracism I feel like it’s me I want to be a better person well some of me does the other part wants to die I see I coming back from all the things I’ve done and I utterly hate Myself
 
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If you were a narcissist you wouldn't hate yourself for being one matie, you would love it, you were just mentally ill, forgive yourself.
 
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I feel I’m never going to get my life back ever - I see no point in going on I’ll never ever be able to fix any of it
 
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Hi, I read that that it is common for SOME (ORmore) people diagnosed with bipolar to have an underlying condition like NPD that they are not aware of. Don't know even if it's true.. But yeah you can have both.evwrytbing possible.

Don't know if it's the case for you. Dont think so. If you have insight means it is not that extreme and you can change or, like the other person said, narcissist are not aware of their narcissism.

But it looks like you are in a depressed state.

Bipolar can resemble narcissism sometimes. Especially mania.
 
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And yes narcissists ALWAYS have to love themselves.
 
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How do you get someone to understand this or that I was manic when I hurt them it’s breaking my heart
 
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How do you get someone to understand this or that I was manic when I hurt them it’s breaking my heart
I'm sorry.
I think there are ways they can understand better this disorder. Information about bipolar disorder, like speaking with other people who have this disorder, speaking with your doctor, reading about it.. Speaking openly with you. if they are open minded and willing to do these things will be better for both parts.

Sometimes it takes time for the closed ones to understand what you are dealing with and that you did not hurt them intentionally.
 
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Thank you I hope your right - have you bi polar also
 
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And maybe you did not hurt them, you feel like an awful person because of depression.

I myght have schizo affective bipolar type. The doctor said its not clear yet if I have it.
 
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Hi Helpless! If you were a narcissist you would not feel bad about hurting others, your heart could not be broken. Narcissists do things that are evil in a calculated way to benefit themselves. Bipolar manic phases could cause you to do something without thinking it through logically that could hurt someone (depends on what, not violence or a crime I hope) and also blow up the effects in your mind when it is not reality. If you have hurt someone, can you talk to them? See how they really feel? I know when I have acted poorly my anxiety/depression makes me feel like I am the worst person ever for doing whatever but I ask the people involved and they don't understand what I mean. After the mood has passed I look back and see their perspective and everything is still cool.
 
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Ups and downs all day, but I'm used to them. So I'm fine. Thanks.
I'm waiting to get my new mood stabiliser soon.
 
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Hi Helpless! If you were a narcissist you would not feel bad about hurting others, your heart could not be broken. Narcissists do things that are evil in a calculated way to benefit themselves. Bipolar manic phases could cause you to do something without thinking it through logically that could hurt someone (depends on what, not violence or a crime I hope) and also blow up the effects in your mind when it is not reality. If you have hurt someone, can you talk to them? See how they really feel? I know when I have acted poorly my anxiety/depression makes me feel like I am the worst person ever for doing whatever but I ask the people involved and they don't understand what I mean. After the mood has passed I look back and see their perspective and everything is still cool.
Nothing illegal I borrowed money from a a friend and couldn’t pay it back on time - tbh I don’t remember why I needed it or what I did with it but was full sure I could give it back she feels I used her and lied to her which I did as I was soo scared to tell the truth which would have been better as I would never ever have hurt this friend or any friend for the matter the money is paid back now but she won’t speak to me I had been admitted 3 weeks before this
 
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Perhaps it was the handling of the return of the money that was poorly done and created issues? You borrowed money, couldn't pay it back straight away, but did in the end. That's ok, sometimes things don't work out so quickly. Especially if you needed money in the first place, perhaps that issue didn't resolve as quickly as you had hoped and there was a delay. The money was paid back but this person wants to be difficult. Perhaps she is also having money issues or something else is going with her. If you had been "admitted" to a psych ward then you have a legitimate excuse to not being able to handle your affairs in a timely manner, yes?
 
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