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My brother is sick with spirituality.

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My brother had some sort of anxiety, depression (I'm using these words the way they are used in general public not psychologically) and we could never know. I think he found some relief in spirituality, which is good, but the people he chose to follow (and still following) are those who say things like these

  • You're not this body, the whole universe is in you and you're the whole universe
  • Life is about wisdom, after gaining that wisdom you'll realize that life is itself completely meaningless
  • Everything in this world is just material, they all have potential to cause you a great pain .

I don't know how to put it but I can see that if condition will go on like this then he might take some strong but a cowardly step. I want to tell you all that once he went away from house, and didn't return for 16 hours, he was on the way of knowing the life (that's what he answered upon being questioned about why he left). I need some help form you all, these materialistic people have destroyed his mentality by wearing the clothes of spirituality.
 
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Are you sure the spiritual people are being materialistic?

What I have understood from your post (and I could be understanding wrong) is that they was telling your brother not to get attached to material stuff?

idk how that makes them materialistic? am i understanding wrong?
 
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Are you sure the spiritual people are being materialistic?

What I have understood from your post (and I could be understanding wrong) is that they was telling your brother not to get attached to material stuff?

idk how that makes them materialistic? am i understanding wrong?
I'm sure that those preachers are materialistic, you see to help someone and to introduce someone doesn't require high resolution cameras, makeup, branded shirt, glasses and paid promotions (the video which I have given is filled with all these). The real spirituality teaches us to love everyone, not to hurt anyone and it gives hope not the hopelessness.

All those spiritual teachers are teaching that "life is a punishment and death is the freedom" (although I agree with this one) but these kinds of thoughts are making a wounded man to give up everything by making an excuse that he is spiritual and it's very hard to make things all right.
 
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I'm sure that those preachers are materialistic, you see to help someone and to introduce someone doesn't require high resolution cameras, makeup, branded shirt, glasses and paid promotions (the video which I have given is filled with all these). The real spirituality teaches us to love everyone, not to hurt anyone and it gives hope not the hopelessness.

All those spiritual teachers are teaching that "life is a punishment and death is the freedom" (although I agree with this one) but these kinds of thoughts are making a wounded man to give up everything by making an excuse that he is spiritual and it's very hard to make things all right.
i agree they dont need all the material stuff to show what they are talking about, the glasses they might need (for example i need glasses in order to see what i'm doing, doesnt make me materialistic)

apart from that one point i agree with the rest of what you are saying (depends how expensive the glasses are, mine was about £70 cause i didnt like the £25 ones they had and next price up was £70 ones)
 
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i agree they dont need all the material stuff to show what they are talking about, the glasses they might need (for example i need glasses in order to see what i'm doing, doesnt make me materialistic)

apart from that one point i agree with the rest of what you are saying (depends how expensive the glasses are, mine was about £70 cause i didnt like the £25 ones they had and next price up was £70 ones)
So, what should be the first step? Should we do something or not?

The matter is some people watch those channels (or attend spiritual gurus physically) just ordinarily but some people are sick with it.
 
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So, what should be the first step? Should we do something or not?

The matter is some people watch those channels (or attend spiritual gurus physically) just ordinarily but some people are sick with it.
can we do anything, is the first question

idk the answer to that
 
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can we do anything, is the first question

idk the answer to that
Yes I too think that. But can we understand what really has happened to my brother? Why spirituality has caused hopelessness and lifelessness in him? Spiritually should have made him an adorable man.
 
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Hi....
What the other doctors, relative and other well know (Spritual people) on this?
I am still little confused your post....... may be i am mistaking to understand your wording and feelings.
Other doctors and psycho analysists have said that he is suffering from Schizophrenia (I don’t why they said it, here in India we got so many sick psychologists).

Other spiritual people are of same thinking as I am, they have told him “ God is everywhere you need not to go to Himalayas and do penance for 100 years, love for others and full filling your duty is the greatest worship”.

I know my communication is quite bad :) many people have complained they often misunderstand me because my words sometimes mean totally different what I intend.

I wanted to say that I think he has become psychologically ill because of the way Spirituality was taught to him by materialists. I think he is using the false commandments of Spirituality (false means you cannot trace it to any known scriptures like Bible, Ramayan, Vedas) for moving towards ending his life.
 
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Are you saying these 'gurus' have led him astray?
and you fear their teachings will lead him to do something awful?
If nothing matters, his body isnt him etc..
 
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Are you saying these 'gurus' have led him astray?
and you fear their teachings will lead him to do something awful?
If nothing matters, his body isnt him etc..
Yes, that’s what I wanted to say (although I’m having little trouble in understanding your last sentence).
 
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Ok. I think you will have to be vigilant with him. Can you be around him more?
 
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Ok. I think you will have to be vigilant with him. Can you be around him more?
Yes , I’m getting his day to day activities observed although he lives 8km away from my house.
 
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I'm not too familiar with my own country's laws or suggestions on this let alone those of yours (India you said?), but I seem to recall that here you can report to a mental health professional about someone if you think they are going to do harm to themselves or to others. Not sure if such drastic measures are necessary for you right now though, but I do understand your concern. Hope someone else can give you a better solution.
 
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I'm not too familiar with my own country's laws or suggestions on this let alone those of yours (India you said?), but I seem to recall that here you can report to a mental health professional about someone if you think they are going to do harm to themselves or to others. Not sure if such drastic measures are necessary for you right now though, but I do understand your concern. Hope someone else can give you a better solution.
Thank you so much.
 
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Are you sure the spiritual people are being materialistic?

What I have understood from your post (and I could be understanding wrong) is that they was telling your brother not to get attached to material stuff?

idk how that makes them materialistic? am i understanding wrong?
I agree with you the statement is misleading.

The so called group(cult,Belief) should abstain from materialism and focus on spirituality. In truth!that is what spirituality teaches. Mind you!spirituality is great for us
 
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