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More Resources for 'Schizophrenia' Recovery.



Coming Off Psychiatric Drugs by Peter Lehmann

Your Drug May Be Your Problem:
How and Why to Stop Taking Psychiatric Medications
by Peter Breggin M.D. and David Cohen Ph.D

The Heart of Being Helpful:
Empathy and the Creation of a Healing Presence by Peter Breggin, M.D

Peter Breggin's site -



John Breeding's Web Site - (also look at his videos on U-Tube)


Agnes's Jacket by Gail A. Hornstein

& her web site which is a brilliant resource -


Alternatives Beyond Psychiatry by Peter Stastny and Peter Lehmann

Broken Brains or Wounded Hearts by Ty Colbert, PhD.

The MIND Web Site is a Great resource -


Coming off psychiatric medication web site -


The Road Back Program -


Dante's Cure - (med free recovery)


Take these Broken Wings - (med free recovery)


Beyond meds Blog - ( an excellent resource)


Madness Radio -


Mind Freedom -


The Icarus Project -



Tamasin Knight

Beyond Belief –

About the book and author

Tamasin Knight's first book Beyond Belief explores ways of helping people who have unusual beliefs. These are beliefs that may be called delusions, obsessions, or another kind of psychopathology.

  • Psychiatric treatment attempts to remove these beliefs by medication and other methods. The new approach described in Beyond Belief is different. It is about accepting the individual's own reality and assisting them to cope and live with their beliefs.
  • Beyond Belief explains the new approach in a very readable format.
  • Many psychological techniques to cope with unusual beliefs are described. These include strategies to reduce fear, strategies to increase coping and problem solving techniques.
  • Ideal for mental health professionals, service users/survivors and carers.
"Beyond Belief offers us a ground-breaking way of helping people deal with unusual beliefs. In Bradford we have found this publication it to be extremely helpful to service users, workers and as the inspiration for a new self help group. I am sure that this publication will enable more people to benefit from this knowledge and approach and help us change the way we as a society approach beliefs we find unusual." (Rufus May; Clinical Psychologist, Centre for Citizenship and Community Mental Health, Bradford University, England)

Dr Tamasin Knight has degrees in psychology and medicine, she has worked as a doctor in the UK and is currently working in South America. This book describes her research to develop new ways of helping people who have delusions, obsessions or unusual experiences.

Download & read it for free here -



Rufus may has a lot of resources on his site -


& also worth looking into are the Hearing Voices Network.

Also 'Google' & Search on you tube for 'Recovery from schizophrenia'.

Successful Schizophrenia -


Jung Circle -


Recovery from "schizophrenia" and other "psychotic disorders" -

[An excellent Blog]


John Weir Perry is a Jungian Psychologist; & he writes in a down to earth & easy to understand way. I would highly recommend his books 'The Far Side of Madness' & 'Trials of the Visionary Mind'. (available from Amazon)

(Try a Google Search on His Name for some more info).

Here is an interesting article about him -


'U-Tube' also has a lot of interesting subjects & information on these things. Try a search for 'recovery from schizophrenia'


Here is a great resource -


At the bottom of this profile page are Links to 4 Blogs by the Author -

Voices of Recovery
A Jungian Approach to Psychosis
Spiritual Recovery
Spiritual Emergency

I very much like the Spiritual Emergency Blog.





Well-known member
Jan 28, 2010
Thanks again, Apo.

Lots of positive and sound info and resources.


If any of this material is a trigger for someone to want to stop medication (if they are already taking it); then please heed this WARNING -

Most psychiatric drugs can cause withdrawal reactions, sometimes including life-threatening emotional and physical withdrawal problems. In short, it is not only dangerous to start taking psychiatric drugs, it can also be dangerous to stop them. Withdrawal from psychiatric drugs should be done carefully under experienced clinical supervision.


Grainne Humphrys is first and foremost a Mother of two new light beings called Hazel (age 7) and Joshua (age 3). She is a survivor of distress as a transformational crisis and process of renewal, living through her transformation without medication or incarceration but with lots of shiatsu and loving support from her family and community.

Grainne promotes alternative routes through distress, crisis and overwhelm.

Grainne enjoys writing and all forms of creativity. She has completed her first year of training in Family Systems Therapy in the tradition of Bert Hellinger. She is learning to translate into the language of the soul and work in service to the soul in the energy field. Family constellations work has reawakened her passion for all things Heart and Soul. It has also reminded her of the mystery, depth and wisdom of Life and the natural laws of the universe.

Grainne is radically opposed to bio-psychiatry and the drugging, labelling and incarcerating of people experiencing distress, crisis and overwhelm. She believes crisis is a messenger for personal transformation. She is deeply concerned and appalled by the drugging and labelling of children, our most precious gifts and teachers.

She has been campaigning for the release of John Hunt for 4 years.
(see video of John here)

Grainne is a member of RENEW and MindFreedom Ireland.

Exclusion, Trivialisation and Denial; Society’s refusal to Acknowledge, Honour and Integrate the trauma and human rights violations experienced by the psychiatric survivor.

By Grainne Humphrys.

In looking at exclusion I would like to use the systemic lens. That which is excluded creates imbalance and so, I believe, as a society we become imbalanced at a collective level when we refuse to acknowledge difficult and painful truths within our society. Nowhere is this felt more keenly than by the psychiatric survivor.

As a so-called ‘civilised’ society we collude in our collective trivialisation of both the violation of human rights of this marginalised minority group and the trauma, pain and silencing of this group. This I believe is our last great civil rights movement.

The ‘treatment’ of distressed individuals with labelling and drugging is simply not acknowledged publicly by society at large, and if it is, it is trivialised and skimmed over. It is given lip-service but it is, by no means, acknowledged at a profound level. In order for survivors to deeply heal they need deep acknowledgement. This has not yet occurred publicly by the mental health professionals (bar a few) or the general public (look, for example, at the recent acknowledgement of abuse survivors in the Ryan Report, and the watershed and paradigm shift that created. This was painful but healing).

The book ‘Crimes Against Our Humanity’ by Lars Martensen should be compulsory reading for all people going into the psychiatric profession as doctors and nurses – though reading it may raise many questions around whether they want to continue working in that system.

What is happening on a daily basis in many hospitals all over Ireland is barbaric and a crime against our humanity and it is simply not acknowledged. Why is this? Why does it feel so threatening for people to acknowledge this truth?

By not acknowledging it, we are adding fuel to an unimaginable well of pain and a raging fire of frustration and anger. Perhaps we are experiencing collective guilt at witnessing and knowing about such violations (however much we push this knowledge to the back of our minds, it taps into our own fear about survival).

Through our turning a blind eye though, we render the psychiatric survivor invisible. Perhaps it just doesn’t feel safe to acknowledge their experience.
I would like to coin a new phrase; ‘lip-service-providers’.

We are all lip-service-providers to the psychiatric survivor. I believe if the deep pain of survivors is truly acknowledged the house of cards will fall, the domino effect will be set in motion. It is not a pain many of us can identify with (though it does tap into our own pain of being human). Neither should it become a pain competition.

The pain of the psychiatric survivor is, however, a very particular kind of pain; it is the pain of being silenced over and over again. It is the pain of being erased, tortured, silenced and rendered powerless. It is unimaginable for most of us, a violation of our basic human rights we take for granted. It is just not within our realm of experience and this too has to be acknowledged. In attempting to compare our pain we deny theirs and add fuel to a justified anger, we simply cannot compare or understand or fathom it, because it is not within our range of experience. It is another subtle way of denying their experience.

We want the psychiatric survivor’s raw pain to be packaged into a more easily digestible form, a socially acceptable and ‘appropriate’ way. It follows that we don’t allow the sheer depth and range of their experience. It is not because the survivor doesn’t have a voice, they do, but they are just not allowed to really use it in whatever way they so choose or wish to, or we will reject it. In effect, we cannot hold or contain their pain as a society or as a group. We collectively repress their experience due to our difficulty in facing and acknowledging this truth about our capacity for man’s inhumanity to man.

We re-package their experience and present it in a ‘safe’ and ‘politically correct’ form, brushing over it and side-stepping past it. We are repelled by their anger, it upsets our civilised sensibilities. It infringes on our safe bubbles of imagined democracy that we have created.
At a deeper level it is our failure to acknowledge the original trauma before people experiencing distress and overwhelm enter the psychiatric services that hurts vulnerable people the most though.

We hurt them three times; by ignoring the original trauma and then by labelling and drugging (in effect, denying) the trauma. We then hurt them again by not allowing them to express their anger at this violation of both their human rights and their right to their trauma.

We label the layers and I believe it is that is what we feel most guilt around because we collude with psychiatry. We all know collectively deep down and subconsciously that there is no such thing as ‘chemical imbalance’ but trauma is taboo in our culture. This really taps into our victim/ perpetrator energy, our inherent fragility as humans, our fear of the unknown, our primal instincts.

Our hiding behind a veneer of ‘respectability’ separates us from those experiencing crisis and overwhelm. We don’t want to look trauma in the eye. But acknowledging this trauma truth holds enormous power and depth of healing if we can do it. We do an enormous disservice to the psychiatric survivor in not revering and honouring their experience.

We need to search deep inside ourselves and our hearts as to why we feel so threatened by the psychiatric survivor’s pain. This is not an easy emotional task, it requires deep and difficult work. Survivor’s anger can be as much about not having their pain and experience acknowledged by us, as about the abuse of their human rights within the psychiatric system. This, to my mind, is the crux of why change and deep healing cannot occur because;

(1) We cannot fathom their pain
(2) We feel threatened in some way by this pain
(3) We deny it and put it into shadow

The facts are there, the recovery stories are there but we barely give the facts lip-service. We need to wake up to these facts. We get distracted by frameworks and models and politics and language and all the trappings of our minds. We have one set of rules for us and another for the psychiatric survivor. We skirt around the issues that really count (like acknowledging feelings). I believe this is because we are afraid of that depth of emotion. Indeed as a culture we trivialise our emotions and are afraid of them.

We are governed by logic and rationale which moves us away from our hearts and the language of our souls.
Psychiatric survivors are not acknowledged. In fact, my feeling is that they are put into collective shadow and their pain is trivialised and even patronised. In order for us all to integrate as a society, we need to open our hearts and create a space for all those who have been excluded, put aside our own pain, to acknowledge their pain (that we cannot even begin to imagine because, quite simply, our human rights have never been violated to such an extent.

This is a fact we need to acknowledge. This is our work, not the survivor’s). I believe our difficulty in acknowledging the survivor stems from our fear of acknowledging our collective perpetrator energy. The survivor is a precious reminder of our ability to deny our perpetrator and how blocking this aspect off, we prevent integration and deep healing.

The survivor has much to teach us, their lessons are gifts, but like all difficult lessons, many of us turn away and resist the challenge for true growth.

Labelling, forced drugging, coercion, incarceration is a barbaric violation of what we hold most dear, our human rights, our right to be human. The fact that it is then called ‘care’ is a denial of what it really is. I stand in awe of people who survive this system. The way it is then glossed over and trivialised by people further adds to that denial.

This actually fuels and reinforces anger (is it any wonder?) It excludes the survivor and their experience. It is a culture of covert abuse.

We should not pretend that we can understand or fathom this pain, be it lost years, chemical damage or unimaginable trauma, just as we cannot understand what it is to be in a concentration camp or to be a victim of war.

We need to allow survivors their pain, we need to acknowledge it and bow down to honour it. This movement (of the soul) towards acknowledging a difficult and painful truth will ultimately heal us at a societal level and allow psychiatric survivors the journey home to their rightful place within society.


Well-known member
Jan 28, 2010
Hi Apo, I woke up thinking about definitions of recovery. Your definition above makes good sense to me.

Re definition of 'recovery':
There are all sorts of different definitions of 'recovery' going around in the mental health world nowadays. I don't want to get into all the pros and cons of these different definitions here though.

Just wanted to say that when it comes to the statement I've quoted above “Long-term studies have found that about 35% of people make a full recovery. About another 35% recover enough to function independently and are self-supporting, with some residual problems.... " [etc] I'm taking the definition to mean that people no longer have the kinds of experiences or behave in the kinds of ways that earned them a diagnosis of schizophrenia in the first place. But we would need to go back to original sources for these figures to know for sure. Presumably people would also not be experiencing other forms of severe mental distress (e.g. now be diagnosed as clinically depressed).

I'm just trying to state the facts as far as I know them, and refute dangerously stigmatising, pessimistic and inaccurate statements concerning people given a schizophrenia diagnosis, such as 'it's ridiculous to think they can work in the open market', or that nobody recovers. Some people can and do work in the open market, some don't. Some people recover, some people don't recover so much.

Apo, I agree with you that why and how people who do recover do, and why others don't get over things so well, are the big questions here. The World Health Organisation schizophrenia studies showing far higher recovery rates in 'developing', pre-industrial, countries than in the industrialised West, raise big questions (and perhaps point to potential solutions) about such things as how our respective societies view people who go through extreme mental states, how we do and don't intervene to help, and even the fundamental values and structures of our societies. More of which another time.


Well-known member
Oct 30, 2010
this very moving and gives food for thought, was outraged by Irish hospitals , Amnesty should investigate them !


Just a story of recovery (or at least better times) here. My uncle was diagnosed with schizophrenia in his twenties and is now a visiting academic at a uni with expertise in communication systems. He has a caring partner and seems a lot happier now than he was when I was little- I would say that it has worked out for him.


Just a story of recovery (or at least better times) here. My uncle was diagnosed with schizophrenia in his twenties and is now a visiting academic at a uni with expertise in communication systems. He has a caring partner and seems a lot happier now than he was when I was little- I would say that it has worked out for him.
Thank you - Glad that things worked out.

There are lots of such stories.


New member
Mar 9, 2011
Non acceptance of diagnosis

My mum is has been diagnosed with schizophrenia. She is now 55 and still does not accept her diagnosis. She only gets ill when she stops taking her mediaction. She has just been sectioned for the first time in 10 years. The only thing I wish more than anything in the world is that she keeps taking her medication and stays well. Maybe people whi have insight into their diagnosis may benefit from withdrawing from medication but I think your post is misleading and assumes it is a positive thing to be drug free. I would be happy to hear if you have any advice for me, as the hardest thing for me and my family is that my mu does not think she has any mental health issues. And truely I thin the only way to move forward wold be if she accepts she has schizophrenia.