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Middle East Syrian Children Refugees and PTSD

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It is so profound about the decades of children living in refugee camps in Syria. Can you just imagine what these children are going through? Most of the children do not have their fathers. It is just the mother with them. The families live desperately below the poverty line. Education and medical care is almost non existence for the refugees hosted in the camps by other countries and humanitarian aid.

I am just having a difficult time thinking about the refugees. I have severe mental health issues but it was not caused by war and hate. Gosh maybe it was everyone always seems to be at war with each other.

So what do you think will happen to the children who are refugees? Love and hugs Jules
 
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There has never been much change in the conditions of people living in temporary conditions. Whether its Africa or a western country (take US) hit by a storm. Its not like theres no money, there is alot of money to solve these peoples problems but it doesnt happen.
Emotionally I can only hope that theres alot of love there alot of pulling together. It really does make a difference. They may or may not be very damaged by the atrocities they have been through They do have their faith too. They also have other nations raising funds and keeping a spotlight on them. Thank God for charities and Aid organisations. Governments should be ashamed of themselves.
 
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I was watching the Kurdish people fleeing their town because of Turkey and I saw people in pick up trucks picking up the kurds that were fleeing and the rescuers kept coming back until everyone was safe. Their are good people all over this world we live in. Amen
 
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Yeap!!! Lots of money is out there. I think after all my reading on the Middle East Refugees Lebanon has the best sanctuary for the refugees. Lebanon is not soliciting money from other countries. They pretty much are self contained. Refugees like it in Lebanon too. Although the refugees are not allowed to work in Lebanon they have a safe place to stay with better conditions than neighboring countries. I am not sure about education in Lebanon but something is in place. Gosh I really have no idea about lebanese people. Never met any. Hugs and love Jules
 
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My friend is kurdish and came over as an illegal immigrant 15 years ago. He is now legal and his lovely family are her legally too. He has told me absolute horror stories about what has happened over there. Part of his journey was by boat. He spent 3 days at see with 60 others. He was lucky if I can use this word. His brother and cousin were on another boat and were never seen again. Presumedly drowned. Its an absolute tragedy what is happening. When he finally arrived here he was working for £1 a day for a 12 hour shift. He was fed only tins of beans and was locked in a room with the threat of "I will call immigration if you try to leave"

That's just one story. I won't go in to the details of other stories that he has told me as they are far too distressing and may trigger.

When people say that immigrants are scum freeloaders and should go back to where they come from it really bothers me.

The man I know escaped hell for a better life for his family. Who in the right mind would criticise a man who risked his life for his children. To escape a country ravaged with war hunger and death for so many including innocent children only to be told to be treated like a slave when he finally got to safety.

I think he is a fucking hero and 10 times the man I am.

Syria and Iraq and other Middle Eastern countries have nothing but rubble and death the horrors that the children see can never be unseen.

The worst thing about it when you dig deeper you find that we, our nation and our allies were a contributing factor to there problems yet we turn them away and treat them like dirt.

I would give my last pound helping them and it is one of the only true thing that keeps me awake at night. Knowing that my sons and daughter have a warm house with food yet around the world there are kids running for there lives with nothing but terror.

Our governments can stop this but hey let's worry about brexit and hide our heads in the sand and pretend that there is not a massive humanitarian crisis happening right now.

Shame on the many with the I'm alright Jack it's not my problem attitude.

It might not be you problem now but god forbid a similar thing happening to us because its possible..
 
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Hi Fazza. I look at a lot of articles on the Middle East and I do not think they value education at all. Keep them stupid so we can take the oil and get rich. Well the Stupid people are human beings and they are trying hard to make a life for their families.

I live in America and decades ago we were all refugees looking for a better place to raise our families. My family had a hard time here in America they did not speak English decades later we were Americanized. From what I seen Muslims are a peaceful people living by the good doctrine of the Koran.

I am a Christian in our bible it says be good to the foreigners. So that is the kind of person I will be. It is hard for someone coming here and not knowing our language. I get pissed off all the time when I can not understand someone-but I go on with my day.

I have been talking to man from India. We talked about all the pollution over there. He said people are lazy and have to drive everywhere. I know from reading India has smog and pollution in a thick heavy layer over the main cities. Worst than San Francisco here in the States. Hugs and love Fazza Jules
 
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Nearly cried at your friends story Fazza. Cannot believe it has to be like this in this century.
A suffering person is in need of help regardless where they are from. I know the Kurdish people have a very hard time.
It infuriates me that the Gulf States do not have the same generosity as a small country like UK. They dont want them. Muslims, yet they wont help their own? We are struggling with our schools, health system, social housing and well pretty much everything. Jobs are thin on the ground too.
 
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Another problem with UK people regarding refugees.
The average brexit voter will claim that they are taking all our jobs but if you pay a refugee £1 pound a day then they will do it as they have no choice. They have to eat somehow.

If I as a westerner went to Northern Iraq as a visitor to a village. I would see people eating just tomotoes and bread however they would find me a sheep and have a bbq for me as a visitor. This would happen in each village that I would visit.
They would put themselves out for others regardless of religion even though we have the assumption that they hate any other religion. Providing we respect them they will respect us as it is part of their religion not to hate.

The amount of misconceptions about Islam is crazy but with all religious sections you will also get radical fanatics and this happens with Islam and Christian religions.

War between religious factions will always have no winner and the children will suffer the most.

Like I said in my first post who in the right mind would criticise a man for wanting the best for his children they are doing what a parent should and if that means coming here to face aggressive remarks from people with very narrow minds then in reality it nothing compared to the horrors of what they have been through. Still after all this they show no hatred and continue to be fantastic friends neighbours and colleagues.
 
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Shall I put it like this?....
I have to leave England, I am of celtic ancestry. I am surrounded by nations that I feel should help me. Ireland, Isle of man, Wales, Scotland. Just a stonesthrow. I dont do this. I get on a boat and risk my life and my families by multiple dangerous journeys and how many miles? and if I was fortunate to survive, end up in a country where I risk being sent back or face being abused and used. Living in a slum. Hiding. Or waiting to become a citizen. A culture I am not used to. A religion I dont follow. I must have been desperate but why didnt my fellow nations help me?
Dont you think they are obligated? First call. No excuses.
As I have said at the beginning...the post nearly made me cry.
 
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Shall I put it like this?....
I have to leave England, I am of celtic ancestry. I am surrounded by nations that I feel should help me. Ireland, Isle of man, Wales, Scotland. Just a stonesthrow. I dont do this. I get on a boat and risk my life and my families by multiple dangerous journeys and how many miles? and if I was fortunate to survive, end up in a country where I risk being sent back or face being abused and used. Living in a slum. Hiding. Or waiting to become a citizen. A culture I am not used to. A religion I dont follow. I must have been desperate but why didnt my fellow nations help me?
Dont you think they are obligated? First call. No excuses.
As I have said at the beginning...the post nearly made me cry.
I could not agree more.
Most of the men I have spoken to about coming here illegally have told me that they have come over here alone then when settled and have legal status they then legally bring the family over. The pain and anquish that they suffer laying the foundations for a better life is heartbreaking. All they want is the best for their families and children. Who can criticise them for that. These great people are true parents who do not take anything for granted they risk there lives at home through war and curruption to risking their lives by choosing to escape in the wheel Wells of trucks or by clinging to the axles of trucks and yet after all that we shun them...... Shame on us.

I don't own the country that I live in. I just happen to be here. Its not mine so I cannot and will not say that anyone else should not be here. We are just residents of this rock.

To quote a comedian.
"when you first landed on Plymouth rock........ You did not have a visa"
 
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