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Medication Advice Please!

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Hi!
I'm hoping someone can please help me.
I suffer from extreme anxiety and intrusive thoughts. My head is ALWAYS noisy, distressing and distracting.

The only medication that has ever helped me are benzos - such as diazepam or lorazepam. The problem being is that it is very difficult to get my Dr to prescribe them to me. I have only been prescribed them twice in 8 years and as such I will buy them elsewhere when I can but those occasions are rare.

When I take a small dose, within half an hour ALL my intrusive thoughts and anxieties are gone and I find it practically impossible to worry about anything - even if I try!

I'm going to see my Dr on Tuesday and I want to insist on some sort of medication.

What kinds of medication give the same 'head quieting' effect as benzos but are able to be taken on a long term, regular prescription?

Any advice or personal experiences are extremely welcome.

Thank you for reading!
 
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Hi Sophie.. sadly i can be no help at all here as i'm terrified of seeing the DR about my issues...

But i just wanted to say good luck and i hope you get on well at the DR.
 
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If intrusive thoughts are anything like full on hearing voices then an anti-psychotic may help.

For me the medication quietens and slows down my thoughts aswell as the voice I hear which presents itself as thoughts in my mind but they're not my thoughts, if you were a voice hearer you'd know the difference too.

Before the meds I used to hear my voice in my ears like most people would think is how we hear voices that are not our own but for most us they present as uncontrollable thoughts in our mind.

I've been on anti-psychotics for just over three years now and I'm very happy to be on them.
 
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If intrusive thoughts are anything like full on hearing voices then an anti-psychotic may help.

For me the medication quietens and slows down my thoughts aswell as the voice I hear which presents itself as thoughts in my mind but they're not my thoughts, if you were a voice hearer you'd know the difference too.

Before the meds I used to hear my voice in my ears like most people would think is how we hear voices that are not our own but for most us they present as uncontrollable thoughts in our mind.

I've been on anti-psychotics for just over three years now and I'm very happy to be on them.
Hi NWiddi,
I'm really not sure exactly 'what' is going on in my head. Which is likely why in the 8 or 9 years I have been trying to access treatment nothing has really worked.
I have never been able to describe to a Dr properly what exactly is going on.
Are you able to message me to discuss in more detail?
Perhaps if I can try to explain what is going on you may be able to give some pointers as to what to alert the Drs too.
I know for certain that there is something seriously wrong. But have never been able to convey that to a Dr. I feel when I talk to them they completely underestimate what is happening.
Thanks
 
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I'm always happy to talk, be it publicly or privately.
 
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I think NWiddi is right that a low dose of antipsychotic can be VERY helpful like quetiapine. It can always be increased in dosage and hasn't got the negative associations as a benzodiazepine. Ask your doc about it.
 
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I think NWiddi is right that a low dose of antipsychotic can be VERY helpful like quetiapine. It can always be increased in dosage and hasn't got the negative associations as a benzodiazepine. Ask your doc about it.
Thank you Calypso. I have taken quetiapine before but they will only prescribe at the minimum dose (can't remember what that is off the top of my head) which does nothing to touch the problem.

I think they prescribe because I am very petite and think I would have a small tolerance? Whilst I know it is not advisable I have been known to self medicate with benzos at 10mg and so a 25mg dose of quetiapine feels pointless. How can I convince Dr to increase the dose?

I dont think they believe me when I try to say how bad the problem is. My head is so noisy ALL the time. To the point I have harmed myself to try and make it stop. It is awful and I feel like I have no control over the thoughts.

When I talk to Dr I feel like they think I am being dramatic and don't have any problems at all. Very difficult.
 
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I believe my voice had the ability to use my 'channel' of thought and pass himself off as me, I thought I was talking to my voice in my mind when really he was having conversations with himself during my psychosis.

He still tries to do it but he's different now he's on anti-psychotics, he sounds more like himself than he does me now.

If any of that makes sense, I know I can sound confusing at times and I do wonder if I am confused on occasion.
 
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ive had my medication changed 3 times
before it became really helpful
I'm on antipsychotics , antidepressants
and also Lorazepam long term ...

it was a big uphill battle
to let me keep the lorazepam
as they said its only for people in hospital

I got myself an advocate
and had to pay to have my medical records copied for me
from the hospital
ive written endless letters, and fought to voice my issues

I dont think I could have done it without my advocate
because as you say they dismiss so much of our feelings and issues

:hug5: 🌠
 
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Hi SophieGrace

Hi!
I'm hoping someone can please help me.
I suffer from extreme anxiety and intrusive thoughts. My head is ALWAYS noisy, distressing and distracting.

The only medication that has ever helped me are benzos - such as diazepam or lorazepam.
Have you read anything about the anxiety trick?. The website that link takes you is written by a very down to earth psychologist called Dr Dave Carbonell. He specialises in treating anxiety disorders. He uses an approach which combines Cognitive Behaviour Therapy and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy

Here are a few words from his website which might help you get a flavour.

"When anxiety Tricks you, you get fooled into using recovery methods which actually make your fears stronger and more persistent. The more you fight an anxiety disorder, the more it grows. It’s like putting out fires with gasoline.

People who struggle with chronic anxiety often observe "the harder I try, the worse it gets". This scares them and makes them think that it's their fault, that there's something so wrong with them that they can't recover. But if it's really true that the harder you try, the worse it gets, you probably need to look at the methods you've been using, and try some different ones!"

I have basically used the approach Dr Dave Carbonell outlines on his website, and his panic attacks workbook, with the help of a couple of therapists to tackle head on my extreme anxiety and intrusive thoughts without using any medication. Today I accept that I have some anxiety however it's manageable in my life, and the intrusive thoughts have gone.
 
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