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I'm not sure where to ask this question, but i'll just put it here.

I'm 17 on the 1st Aug and have often been told i look and act in my 20's. When i'm replying to peoples post i sometimes add my age, sometimes not. But a question that always lingers in my head when i post on the forum is do people really take a 16/17 year old or younger person seriously? It may just be my paranoia but i feel like people will write me off as knowing nothing because of my age. I would like to know what people think about thing about this please.

Thanks.
 
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no matter what your age is poppet your views and thoughts are still important and you are a valuable member of the forum,:)
 
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People are individual. This is no reflection on you - I know young people, & I was one myself once. I'm still not that old. What is hard being younger is thinking that no one understands, I still get that now, but I am far more aware today of the life experience of people who are older. There is experience gained with age, that younger people do not have; that is not to say that there aren't very beneficial traits in being young, as there obviously are. As a generalisation, many young it seems don't want to learn from those who are older, or listen to them. The saying 'I am not young enough to know everything' applies I think, & also that 'youth is wasted on the young'. I have known a teenage girl the past 2 years, she is now 18, she is starting to realise that maybe older people do know a thing of two, instead of acting & behaving like everyone over the age of 20 is a retard, & that she knows everything. She is also realising that life is hard & she can't have everything all her own way. There is none stranger than folk, & I know that not all people are the same. Some young people are ahead of their years, unselfish, kind & thoughtful - just as much as some older people are selfish & unkind.

I also think that this country (UK), has a very bad attitude in general to the welfare & treatment of the younger generation. The very old are often treated very badly too. The youth is the future, the old are our past; & they often have much wisdom. But the elderly are cast on the rubbish heap, & the young no doubt do have things hard.

I love technology - but the embracing of computerised technology is not such a good thing for the youth, (or so good at any age). People now live in a world of face book, U-Tube, IM, on-line porn, mobile phones, game consoles, & trash culture - it does nothing for people that need to develop proper human interaction & communication. But such is the World in which we now live. There is immense pressures on the young of today. These factors - Combined with an abysmal schooling system, generally bad parenting, & the materialist culture. & I don't think it any wonder why things are the way the are; knife crime, drug culture & all the other social ills of today - is to be expected. It isn't about blame - Maybe a large part of how things are is because of the older generations? I used to blame the 60's generation, & the war generation a lot for things. Maybe now my generation is responsible for certain things? You will always have a certain type of person that blames the youth, & youths who blame the adult World. Everyone is responsible, & it's only through personal responsibility that anything really will change.

I found these quotes the other day -

'Youth is wasted on the young'
- George Bernard Shaw

'I am not young enough to know everything'
- Oscar Wilde

Most people get a fair amount of fun out of their lives, but on balance life is suffering, and only the very young or the very foolish imagine otherwise.
- George Orwell

When you are young you take the kindness people show you as your right.
- W. Somerset Maugham

Poverty is uncomfortable; but nine times out of ten the best thing that can happen to a young man is to be tossed overboard and compelled to sink or swim.
- James A. Garfield

If religion were true, its followers would not try to bludgeon their young into an artificial conformity; but would merely insist on their unbending quest for truth, irrespective of artificial backgrounds or practical consequences.
- H. P. Lovecraft

Experience which was once claimed by the aged is now claimed exclusively by the young.
- Gilbert K. Chesterton

When we are out of sympathy with the young, then I think our work in this world is over.
- George MacDonald

He who would pass his declining years with honor and comfort, should, when young, consider that he may one day become old, and remember when he is old, that he has once been young.
- Joseph Addison
 
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Hi. I do agree with Apotheosis' comments. As a teacher working with adolescents I am aware of young people's fears and anxieties. You are probably right to be worried about what may come next and we, as adults, are in part responsible of this climate of negativity and absence of values. Yet, there's a lot you can do to change things and much of this depends on your willingness to find the best strategies. You can use intenet and enojy Facebook or U Tube but try to avoid being depersonalised by this artificial world. Many of my students misuse substances and get drunk on a regular basis during the weekend. This helps them to forget about themselves for a few hours but then they come and ask me to talk with them.They feel lonely and unsuccessful as persons and as students. I tell them that sometimes I do also feel lonely and that this is part of a human condition.
 
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I'm not sure where to ask this question, but i'll just put it here.

I'm 17 on the 1st Aug and have often been told i look and act in my 20's. When i'm replying to peoples post i sometimes add my age, sometimes not. But a question that always lingers in my head when i post on the forum is do people really take a 16/17 year old or younger person seriously? It may just be my paranoia but i feel like people will write me off as knowing nothing because of my age. I would like to know what people think about thing about this please.

Thanks.
Contrary to belief, as you get older you don't necessarily get wiser. I remember imagining as a 14 yr old how it would feel like to be 30. I thought that by that age I would have all the answers and be able to (paraphrasing Pink Floyd) "... skate on the thin ice of modern life." Alas, I ended up falling through the ice and nearly drowned.

Yes, you do gain experience as you get older, but you also collect a lot of baggage along the way which can often prevent you from seeing clearly.

I would like to think that I'd respond to a 17yr old's comments the same as I'd treat an older person's; consider them on merit rather than how old the person was who wrote them.

Now... have you done your homework young lady? :D
 
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i'm 18 and i've never got the impression on this forum that i'm treated any differently.
 
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I'm not meaning to be rude, please don't anybody take this the wrong way but all the people on this site seem so clever, I sometimes feel like I don't belong :). Its the way you write and the way you articulate yourselves ???
 
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shelly, i don't know if that applies to me, sometimes i feel very stupid especially when people make me feel that way i guess though in regards to articulation when you're writing on a forum you have more time to think about how to word things. Although i have noticed that when Apotheosis says anything it's hard to think of anything to add :p
 
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Anybody who doesn’t take somebody seriously on age alone is the one with the problem IMO.

For example your post asking this question was made in a sensible and measured manner, some young people who type online using just text speak (I feel old after I typed that! lol) I give up before finishing reading there post if there is too much of it, those I can’t take seriously.
 
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Apotheosis

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Although i have noticed that when Apotheosis says anything it's hard to think of anything to add :p
I will take that as a compliment - thank you. I don't feel too clever a lot of the time. I think that I probably get ideas above my station.

Shaun said:
I give up before finishing reading there post if there is too much of it, those I can’t take seriously.
I feel the same, & I could get into one about it all, but I won't as I have done so before already on this site.
 
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Take you seriously? Jesus no, I don't take anyone seriously.. the vast majority of people are idiots no matter what their age is.

If I can give you any advice I say forget everyone else, they really don't matter or pay attention to you.. people are more self absorbed than you can imagine but more ultimately none of this really matters.

We're clinging on to a rock that's travelling at 60,000 miles per hour in circles around a huge ball of fire in a place where there are more balls of fire than grains of sand on the earth.

ps: "An 80 year old douche is still a douche, he just survived..."

(Quoted Joe Rogan)
 
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Canmix I would agree with you for most of the internet and what you said I do hold true on most other sites and forums I visit regularly:p

However I have found this forum and its members are very respectful of others and their feelings 99% of the time, there are a good number of people I can take seriously on here :)
 
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We're clinging on to a rock that's travelling at 60,000 miles per hour in circles around a huge ball of fire in a place where there are more balls of fire than grains of sand on the earth.

ps: "An 80 year old douche is still a douche, he just survived..."

(Quoted Joe Rogan)
LOL - Yes, all very true. :)
 
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Thanks everyone for sharing your thoughts. :)
 
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mAY i ASK A QUESTION?

Keep posting your thoughts and questions "The dreams we had", you are never to young to stop learning.

Youth and the elderly should respect each other and act more responsible to create a better world.

Incidently Apotheosis a great article submitted (25/07/09)
 
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