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Jiddu Krishnamurti on the Roots of Psychological Disorder

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I thought this was interesting because it speaks to the boundary between psychological dysfunction and spirituality from the perspective of a possibly enlightened being. It is actually a round table, also involving a few other notable scientists of the time, including Rupert Sheldrake.

 
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So he spends a lot of time talking about the self, and whether one's self view is the root of a lot of psychological disorders. To me that sounds possible, because if you take for example depression, it has a lot to do with your personal goals, how you see the world treating you going forward. There are two things in that equation, you and your vision.

If you can bring about a revolution in how you see yourself, you might also revolutionise for example your depression. I think that that is why so often you see people saying things like, 'I found god and it saved me from my feelings'. Or 'I found love and she saved me.'
 
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Once in an auditorium my guru was giving a talk and he stopped in the middle of his talk to look right at me (or so I thought) and say, "Some of us have mental problems" as if to say,"Why don't you fix yourself?"
All my psychological problems came from my parents. It's their world view or my reaction to their world view.
 
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Isn't that just immaturity??
Lots of people stay immature for a long time though, perhaps it might be good to confront them with these things in a more direct fashion than just letting it slide. Maybe a regular maturity check-up should be part of all mental health treatment.
 
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This whole lecture series is interesting - it tackles what is a healthy mind, and the nature of psychological suffering. So worth a watch, if you want to spend 4 hours with Krishnamurti, David Bohm, Rupert Sheldrake and their host.
 
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From what I understand of Krishnamurti he taught Buddhism without reference to the Buddha, the choiceless awareness that is the goal of his meditation is the same goal as Zen and Theravada Buddhism. I'm a bit wary of him because of his association with Theosophy, Annie Besant found him and they tried to make him the vehicle for their version of Maitreya, he did however dissolve the order of the star that was meant to bring this about and he was friends with The Dalai Lama.
 
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Ajahn Chah, is a good example of integrity as is Ajahn Sumedho.
 
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@Stan5634, Larry Rosenberg one of my favourite Buddhist teachers studied with Krishnamurti and found the meditations led him to the same place both Vipassana and Krishnamurti, please don't think I'm having a go, it's just that Theosophy played a big part in my breakdown and diagnosis of Schizophrenia - my really non-existant sense of self just reacted and got caught up in it. :).
 
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OK your having a pop now, so I'll back off.
 
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Ajahn Chah lived the life of a simple alms mendicant in the jungles of Thailand teaching in a manner that had been going for 2500 years. I feel no need to justify him, his teachings speak for themselves. Read them or don't as always like everything it's up to the non-existent "you".
 
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I'll take a look when I have had some sleep, I may not be enlightened but I have had enough moments of Vipassana to know that the Buddha and Ajhan Chah's teachings are verifiable.
 
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