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ive befriended an evil spirit

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im not of a scientific mind
and things that are ' proven ' scientifically
are sometimes later disproven
by another scientist
My point was not philosophical, for example in ancient times people thought that some weather phenomenal or astral movements are gods’ wrath and now we know exactly how and why they happen. And things that have been proven scientifically can’t be disproven, maybe some theories that were not based on facts or something verifiable. At this point you only choose to have a mystical explanation. And what you call mystical today it should have later on an explanation that anyone could understand. Anyway, I don’t think this helps at all.
What I believe in is that our brain have serious flaws in certain situations and of course one feels that those are real, nobody should say otherwise, in the same time we should seek for a resolution so we can understand how to really cope and what can be done better.
 
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There are many people out there who know that the paranormal exsists but those who have never had any experinces are too tiny minded and will argue that its all fake no matter what so there is no point in trying to explain things to them. I agree there are a lot of people who go to church who don't believe in ghosts etc.
It’s not about being tiny minded, it’s like the point you don’t want to get fooled by a door-to-door salesman, you are skeptical by default, you want proof for their claim, you won’t put your money for a story. So with the skeptical atitutide you don’t refute the idea, you actively participate in finding the truth, but if you don’t get evidence, you don’t jump to conclusions, because it could be any kind of truth, how do you know you chose the right one? (Let’s imagine that there are even more options to explain the same event).
 
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The world is not black and white sorry to say too many people judge with what they see not what they feel 🙄 and they wounder why the world is increased by negative and ignorant people
I think you should only judge yourself when it comes about what you feel, because it’s about you and not the others. In regards with what we see, we know clearly that it can be flawed (for example pattern matching in our brain regarding face recognition and so on), so before attempting any final statement about something we should be able to repeat an experiment with different “variables”, ask around, understand more.
 
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Well the occult and spiritual world exists - I encountered it on a couple of occasions long before I was psychotic, it is however a lot rarer than some of the beliefs that manifest in people with psychiatric problems. I met a couple of people who could commune with unseen entities and they very accurately predicted my future. In Buddhism Preta's and Asura's can do that as their realm is outside our time bound universe, however, given their natures I wouldn't trust entities like that.
 
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All I’m saying is no one can say she is right or wrong we are not there and we don’t know everything I think it’s a cheek that some are assuming she is wrong , or telling others that have advised her what she is doing or what others have advised her is wrong when actually none of us are there and none of us actually know , if she feels the doll is dodgy then take it to a spirit person who knows about this stuff or priest she isn’t doing nothing wrong she might get some answers and piece of mind and if it’s evil hopefully get rid of it, it seems like anyone that believes in the spirit world has had experiences and situations but in words can sound bit odd to small minded people and straight away gets assumed as oh that person is mad she’s talking bout spirits but actually how does any of us know if what that person is experiencing in her mind or reality, don’t be quick to assume someone that believes in spirits is mad and needs a pherapist or check when your not even there.
good luck with the doll situation be safe deffo get it checked by someone who could help who knows about this stuff
One thing I will say thou if it felt the slightest of evil u should burn it, if it was a good spirit you wouldn’t feel that , good spirits don’t usually work thru dolls that’s usually (usually) a bad one. Keep it away from children what ever you do x
 
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What if what the person above is advising the right thing thou and it helps or works. Why do people refer others that can see different things and feel different things straight away to do with your mental state
It’s getting boring
What if it does more harm than good? IF a person is having an issue with their mental health, pushing the issue of spirits and such nonsense could be extremely damaging!!!
 
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Wow bit strong ! just because you don’t believe in what she does does not mean what she is experiencing is not real, evil, spirits etc r real u prob just haven’t been opened minded enough to experience it. The world is not black and white sorry to say too many people judge with what they see not what they feel 🙄 and they wounder why the world is increased by negative and ignorant people
I`ve quite rightly stated MY OPINION, in that post, where did I state that what she was experiencing was not real???!! I asked how her mental health was, the possibility that her mental health MAYBE deteriorating!!

I stated my belief and did not pour scorn on what the poster thought.

I believe in black and white until I see something that convinces me otherwise. That is more healthy.

YOU are in no position to tell me wether I`m open minded or not!
 
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All I’m saying is no one can say she is right or wrong we are not there and we don’t know everything I think it’s a cheek that some are assuming she is wrong , or telling others that have advised her what she is doing or what others have advised her is wrong when actually none of us are there and none of us actually know , if she feels the doll is dodgy then take it to a spirit person who knows about this stuff or priest she isn’t doing nothing wrong she might get some answers and piece of mind and if it’s evil hopefully get rid of it, it seems like anyone that believes in the spirit world has had experiences and situations but in words can sound bit odd to small minded people and straight away gets assumed as oh that person is mad she’s talking bout spirits but actually how does any of us know if what that person is experiencing in her mind or reality, don’t be quick to assume someone that believes in spirits is mad and needs a pherapist or check when your not even there.
good luck with the doll situation be safe deffo get it checked by someone who could help who knows about this stuff
One thing I will say thou if it felt the slightest of evil u should burn it, if it was a good spirit you wouldn’t feel that , good spirits don’t usually work thru dolls that’s usually (usually) a bad one. Keep it away from children what ever you do x
I much prefer if everyone is entitled to their opinion. I can think of many situations where calling bullshit can lead to positive outcomes for everyone. To consider it nonsense is valid aswell, as everyone has their own eyes and mind, can interpret things differently and is entitled to their point of veiw.
Just as the op has a right to express his/her views or experience, the next person has a right to theirs, even if it may seem dismissive, its still valid.
To call people 'tiny minded' is actually quite ironic, when you consider that your argument is flawed by itself.
 
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All I’m saying is no one can say she is right or wrong we are not there and we don’t know everything I think it’s a cheek that some are assuming she is wrong , or telling others that have advised her what she is doing or what others have advised her is wrong when actually none of us are there and none of us actually know , if she feels the doll is dodgy then take it to a spirit person who knows about this stuff or priest she isn’t doing nothing wrong she might get some answers and piece of mind
I am sorry if this felt like an escalation from my side, however I do agree in essence with the previous posters. People experiencing the hardest illness possible (unfortunately that’s schizophrenia & co.) don’t find peace of mind in such cases, instead they deepen more in the subject and get their symptoms escalating. So, context is important, also I think there is nobody around here trying to harm, we are all exchanging ideas and hopefully new paths will show that will make us feel better.
 
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What if it does more harm than good? IF a person is having an issue with their mental health, pushing the issue of spirits and such nonsense could be extremely damaging!!!
Well there is no harm in seeking advise or seeing someone who specialises in spirits it could make a difference rather then assuming someone with mental health condition is just getting worse like u said in your comment pushing the issue of spirits and such nonsense could be damaging ur assuming just because she feels it’s an evil spirit it’s nonsense why is that because she has a mental health condition , getting a second opinion could help rather then assuming it’s nonsense just cause you don’t believe in spirits etc doesn’t mean it’s nonsense and no one is pushing her to do anything she’s been given advice !!!!!!!!! When she gets a second opinion by someone who deals with spirits she can then make her next choice weather to speak to her doctor to help manage her mental health which by the way is there regardless of weather they believe there is a spirit around or not which is what every person with any mental health condition should do to be able to get the best support.
 
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I much prefer if everyone is entitled to their opinion. I can think of many situations where calling bullshit can lead to positive outcomes for everyone. To consider it nonsense is valid aswell, as everyone has their own eyes and mind, can interpret things differently and is entitled to their point of veiw.
Just as the op has a right to express his/her views or experience, the next person has a right to theirs, even if it may seem dismissive, its still valid.
To call people 'tiny minded' is actually quite ironic, when you consider that your argument is flawed by itself.
Sorry u said your bit and uv used words such as nonsense, and people r pushing her to think it’s spirits and advising her to see someone who specialises in spirits etc is damaging . So that says clearly u think it’s all nonsense and it’s her state of mind others that are saying that could be true and to see someone who deals with spirits is wrong to say that, then ur getting upset lol when I stated your small minded and that’s what u are if u don’t like that then change ur way cos u are your stating that is her condition when u don’t know and ur also calling it nonsense when again u don’t know so that says one thing ur ignorant !! It’s very clear u can think it’s nonsense but no one is saying it’s def true me and some others are saying the possibilities and what she could do to rule it out but straight away ur saying it’s damaging and nonsense.
 
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Well there is no harm in seeking advise or seeing someone who specialises in spirits it could make a difference rather then assuming someone with mental health condition is just getting worse like u said in your comment pushing the issue of spirits and such nonsense could be damaging ur assuming just because she feels it’s an evil spirit it’s nonsense why is that because she has a mental health condition , getting a second opinion could help rather then assuming it’s nonsense just cause you don’t believe in spirits etc doesn’t mean it’s nonsense and no one is pushing her to do anything she’s been given advice !!!!!!!!! When she gets a second opinion by someone who deals with spirits she can then make her next choice weather to speak to her doctor to help manage her mental health which by the way is there regardless of weather they believe there is a spirit around or not which is what every person with any mental health condition should do to be able to get the best support.
A persons mental health should be the first priority.
 
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I am not saying its nonsense at all @Megan1987 . But i would defend someones right to have an opinion. If we do not have a right to express our own ideas then we have no control over our reality and are ultimately being told what to do or say.
I apologise for the last sentence in my post, it was unnecessary.
 
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