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informing next of kin, Question uk

BorderlineDownunder

BorderlineDownunder

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@ BDU... are you talking MH Act England or Oz... there are differences/
There is no automatic Guardianship in England to the best of my knowledge... has to be applied for and only in set circs.
check it again

the hospitals will be full of folk of no fixed address with no fixed support person, all getting treatment anyway because the Act takes this into account.

If you do not nominate a Third Party the Gubmint does it for you. Here, they are called The Public Trustee. Its an entire govt department devoted to caring for those who have no options.

I will bet my house on this btw.
 
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nounandnoun

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thank you all so much, this has been very helpful indeed. While I am not about to test their threat, I dont think that they will actually section me as i am not a danger to myself or others but seeing as it is being used as a bit of a boogie man waiting under the bed its is good to get more of an idea of what i can or cant ask for or expect. I am really scared of being labelled a difficult patient so just having the right language to use and examples of what others have been through is really handy. xxx
 
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One question for yáll then -

IF you don't TELL them who your next of kin is, how do they KNOW?

:shrug:

They aren't Psychic. No One can access birth records without a subpoena or Court Order, not even the Fabulously Concerned NHS.
 
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nounandnoun

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One question for yáll then -

IF you don't TELL them who your next of kin is, how do they KNOW?

:shrug:

They aren't Psychic. No One can access birth records without a subpoena.
its recorded in your medical records, when you get any treatment on the nhs they ask your name and get your notes up nowdays electronically. And if you can't tell them your name i think they check see if you have any ID on you. I think I had my bus pass
 
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nounandnoun

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can i chck quickly, have posts been deleted? Not questioning moderation, just reality checking, lots of information from forum and ward got cross pollinated or somthing. Thank you
 
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Taffy

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can i chck quickly, have posts been deleted? Not questioning moderation, just reality checking, lots of information from forum and ward got cross pollinated or somthing. Thank you
Looks like some stuff has gone yes... it is not you...
I think some stuff was not helpful and wrong imo... and perhaps deleted so that you were not confused imo.

You might be unwell but you are not stupid ok?...remember that and best way to deal with it if you can manage is what you are doing already and understand the rules.

If you can understand the rules then you can work out what you want to do.

Having an MI does not automatically mean that you do not have Capacity ...
look at this also

Mental Capacity Act 2005 | Mind, the mental health charity - help for mental health problems

all good wishes to you
love
Taffy
 
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Hi Noun,

This thread digressed and it was not helpful to you. You are informal and all the legalities do not apply - and even if they did, The main focus has to be how you are and how you are doing.

I am a psychiatric social worker and it is absolutely bad practice to threaten a section. You either assess and look at all the risks involving all the relevant people. Quite often it is decided not to section someone.

Keep posting to let us know how you are.

xx Harper
 
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nounandnoun

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Looks like some stuff has gone yes... it is not you...
I think some stuff was not helpful and wrong imo... and perhaps deleted so that you were not confused imo.

You might be unwell but you are not stupid ok?...remember that and best way to deal with it if you can manage is what you are doing already and understand the rules.

If you can understand the rules then you can work out what you want to do.

Having an MI does not automatically mean that you do not have Capacity ...
look at this also

Mental Capacity Act 2005 | Mind, the mental health charity - help for mental health problems

all good wishes to you
love
Taffy
Thank you so so much Taffy.
You're very kind and I have always appreciated your posts. Wishing all the best joys, love and happiness for you xx
 
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nounandnoun

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Hi Noun,

This thread digressed and it was not helpful to you. You are informal and all the legalities do not apply - and even if they did, The main focus has to be how you are and how you are doing.

I am a psychiatric social worker and it is absolutely bad practice to threaten a section. You either assess and look at all the risks involving all the relevant people. Quite often it is decided not to section someone.

Keep posting to let us know how you are.

xx Harper
Thank you Harper I really appreciate your insight, knowledge and understanding. You are a lovely presense on here. I am really determined to avoid a section and i feel much clearer about it all now, i will keep updated. Really hope everything is going well for you and happiness comes your way soon xx
 
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nounandnoun

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And you Taffy, this place will be much poorer without you but I'm glad you're looking out for your health. All the best xx
 
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Taffy

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Thanks... but don't go off post on your own thread lol!
Back on topic....xxxx;)
 
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That was such a lovely thing to say noun. You have made my day.

Are you getting some nice food? When I was in last there seemed plenty eat. Then there was the tea trolley with the squeaky wheels. I found those things quite comforting.

Have you had any visitors? I would come and bring you some chocolates and a good book. Let us know how you are getting on.

xx Harper.
 
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nounandnoun

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Sorry for vomiting words at you, hobe all is going verly well with you xxx
 
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Harper

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If you think I could help you can PM me. Its not good to be sitting there contemplating it all on your own. I know being on the ward can be stressful because you are propelled into a situation with complete strangers which can be tricky at times.

The thing that used to get to me was the intense heat and having no access to a thermostat.

I like cheese, but too much is not good.

Just send me a message if you are ok to do this. xx Harper
 
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