
John A
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I recently received notification of the Hearing Voice Network's forthcoming special conference, and responded by asking if we could participate on an equal footing with those with more complicated explanations for hearing voices than we have, the simplest explanation conceivable, that what you hear is what you've got, pure and simple. The email correspondence I've sent (two messages, in reverse chronological order), applying for representation at the conference, is reproduced below, in case anybody is interested.
I wonder whether the decision will be to welcome the likes of us on an equal footing with everybody else, or to marginalise or to exclude us altogether, as we are well-used to being marginalised and excluded by now, wherever we apply for representation of our politically-incorrect point of view.
I wonder whether anybody will read this posting, and, if so, whether I'll get any thoughtful, intelligent replies to the content.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Allman
To: Rufus May
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:18 AM
Subject: Fw: Special Hearing Voices Network Conference - please can we field a speaker to place on the agenda our own perspectives?
To: Rufus May, Hearing Voices Network
Hi Rufus
We last exchanged emails in the summer, when I was about to set off to the USA to appear as a studio guest on a TV chat show, missing not just the Manchester HVN conference, but also my mother's funeral and the unveiling of my late wife's tombstone. I had a wasted journey. Not only were the particular shows some of our people were booked onto cancelled, but, after four years of broadcasting weekly to 50 million people, the entire series was cancelled by the network and the show host herself was fired.
As you'll read in the forwarded email below, I've asked to be allowed speak from the platform at the forthcoming HVN special conference. The USA TV network took drastic action to prevent our getting a platform on US TV, but I am hoping that Hearing Voices Network won't be so severe in (let's face it) censoring our explanation of hearing voices, at what is, after all, billed as a "festival of explanations". After all, abuse by persons who are deploying V2K weapons is, in effect, the single most-offered "explanation" of all, of hearing voices, amongst voice-hearers, even amongst those who have not yet discovered from respectable published sources that technology capable of (so-to-speak) "mind control" applications, which causes targeted individiuals to hear sounds that others near them cannot hear, is called "V2K" by the military, and that Freedom of Information Act questions about the availability and deployment of such technology in the UK elicit blank refusal to answer the questions, for alleged reasons of so-called "national security".
It would be cheaper, obviously, for us to picket outside the Hearing Voices Network special conference, there to protest (not for the first time) that our explanation for hearing voices was being, yet again, censored or sidelined, but, all the same, I'd be much happier if you were able to reassure us that this time around ALL explanations were allowed to be voiced at the "festival of explanations", from the platform, not just all explanations, however convoluted, OTHER THAN OUR EXPLANATION, the one explanation that is most commonly offered by actual voice-hearers, in my experience, and that DUE PROMINENCE would be given to what is, after all (using Occam's Razor), by far the simplest explanation of all, at least in cases in which the content of voices heard boasts that V2K technology is being used to the hearers' detriment.
Please let us know whether we are allowed to come and play, on a "level playing field" for once. We are very organised. I've had five V2K abuse victims in my home during the past couple of days, and we're opening a high street charity shop in the morning, which has a Ban Mind Weapons .org t-shirt displayed priminently in the middle of the shop window.
We've worked darned hard for the past five years (or more) against V2K weapons, and all the other "manipulation" weapons the European Parliament has wanted banned since 1999, and it's just not FAIR that others, even within groups like HVN, keep on trying to pretend that our highly-organised lobby and our rationally-argued-from-scientific-evidence viewpoint simply doesn't exist or have "validity", or that our community consists entirely of unemployable lame ducks in need of sectioning for their own good, who wouldn't be able to organise a piss-up in a brewery, and who certainly couldn't be trusted to speak sensibly into a microphone, on a platform, at any conference we hadn't called ourselves - let alone our being allowed a voice on a US TV chat show, like the one the poor show host must sometimes regret having invited some of us onto, now that she has lost her job as a result.
Are we welcome? Do we have permission to speak, for once?
Yours sincerely,
John Allman
----- Original Message -----
From: John Allman
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:33 PM
Subject: Special Hearing Voices Network Conference - please can we field a speaker to place on the agenda our own perspectives?
To: Jacqui Dillon, Hearing Voices Network:
Dear Jaqui
We are in the process of forming a voice-hearers-friendly international Christian ministry with charitable status that is expressly accepting of the explanation that many voice-hearers offer for their hearing voices, so-called "targeted individuals", who claim that they are being assaulted by persons unknown who are armed with V2K weapons - Center for Army Lessons Learned . Some of our community are psychiatric survivors. None of those who are survivors report significant benefits from any anti-psychotic medication they perhaps used to take, or are still being coerced into taking in a number of cases.
Part of the Christian project involves opening tomorrow, a brand new high street charity shop in my home town Fleet, staffed at first exclusively by targeted individuals from all over the country, and raising funds (mainly by the sale of donated goods, and by the enlisting of regular support by bank standing order) for more than one cause, including both an orphanage in Uganda (the major beneficiary over the Christmas period), and work with targeted individuals who hear voices.
The shop premises will also be used for acts of Christian worship, at times when ordinary churches are closed, and for educating of targeted individuals who aren't necessarily Christians themselves about the spiritual help available from God through the Lord Jesus Christ, educating non-voice-hearing Christian believers about the plight of targeted indiviuals, and educating both groups about the bible prophecies that predicted the development of psychotronic weapons that happened in the 20th century.
The Flyer you sent me today listed some of the "confirmed speakers". It could turn out to be mighty useful for us to have some dialogue with other people in the Hearing Voices Network, voice-hearers outside our "targeted individual" community. I'm thinking therefore of hiring a minibus and making a block booking at your special conference, for some our people who would want to attend your conference provided such dialogue about our own issues were more-or-less assured. Are we welcome? If you'll invite me to be one of the conference speakers, so that the dialogue we all want about our agenda can be more effectively stimulated, I'll gladly put out feelers as to who from the UK targeted individual community wants to come along.
Yours sincerely,
John Allman
1 Cotwold Court, Albert Street, Fleet, Hants. GU51 3XZ
+44 7930 519793
www.thatfund.org
Christians Against Mental Slavery
The Alliance For Change - home page
I wonder whether the decision will be to welcome the likes of us on an equal footing with everybody else, or to marginalise or to exclude us altogether, as we are well-used to being marginalised and excluded by now, wherever we apply for representation of our politically-incorrect point of view.
I wonder whether anybody will read this posting, and, if so, whether I'll get any thoughtful, intelligent replies to the content.
----- Original Message -----
From: John Allman
To: Rufus May
Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:18 AM
Subject: Fw: Special Hearing Voices Network Conference - please can we field a speaker to place on the agenda our own perspectives?
To: Rufus May, Hearing Voices Network
Hi Rufus
We last exchanged emails in the summer, when I was about to set off to the USA to appear as a studio guest on a TV chat show, missing not just the Manchester HVN conference, but also my mother's funeral and the unveiling of my late wife's tombstone. I had a wasted journey. Not only were the particular shows some of our people were booked onto cancelled, but, after four years of broadcasting weekly to 50 million people, the entire series was cancelled by the network and the show host herself was fired.
As you'll read in the forwarded email below, I've asked to be allowed speak from the platform at the forthcoming HVN special conference. The USA TV network took drastic action to prevent our getting a platform on US TV, but I am hoping that Hearing Voices Network won't be so severe in (let's face it) censoring our explanation of hearing voices, at what is, after all, billed as a "festival of explanations". After all, abuse by persons who are deploying V2K weapons is, in effect, the single most-offered "explanation" of all, of hearing voices, amongst voice-hearers, even amongst those who have not yet discovered from respectable published sources that technology capable of (so-to-speak) "mind control" applications, which causes targeted individiuals to hear sounds that others near them cannot hear, is called "V2K" by the military, and that Freedom of Information Act questions about the availability and deployment of such technology in the UK elicit blank refusal to answer the questions, for alleged reasons of so-called "national security".
It would be cheaper, obviously, for us to picket outside the Hearing Voices Network special conference, there to protest (not for the first time) that our explanation for hearing voices was being, yet again, censored or sidelined, but, all the same, I'd be much happier if you were able to reassure us that this time around ALL explanations were allowed to be voiced at the "festival of explanations", from the platform, not just all explanations, however convoluted, OTHER THAN OUR EXPLANATION, the one explanation that is most commonly offered by actual voice-hearers, in my experience, and that DUE PROMINENCE would be given to what is, after all (using Occam's Razor), by far the simplest explanation of all, at least in cases in which the content of voices heard boasts that V2K technology is being used to the hearers' detriment.
Please let us know whether we are allowed to come and play, on a "level playing field" for once. We are very organised. I've had five V2K abuse victims in my home during the past couple of days, and we're opening a high street charity shop in the morning, which has a Ban Mind Weapons .org t-shirt displayed priminently in the middle of the shop window.
We've worked darned hard for the past five years (or more) against V2K weapons, and all the other "manipulation" weapons the European Parliament has wanted banned since 1999, and it's just not FAIR that others, even within groups like HVN, keep on trying to pretend that our highly-organised lobby and our rationally-argued-from-scientific-evidence viewpoint simply doesn't exist or have "validity", or that our community consists entirely of unemployable lame ducks in need of sectioning for their own good, who wouldn't be able to organise a piss-up in a brewery, and who certainly couldn't be trusted to speak sensibly into a microphone, on a platform, at any conference we hadn't called ourselves - let alone our being allowed a voice on a US TV chat show, like the one the poor show host must sometimes regret having invited some of us onto, now that she has lost her job as a result.
Are we welcome? Do we have permission to speak, for once?
Yours sincerely,
John Allman
----- Original Message -----
From: John Allman
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 4:33 PM
Subject: Special Hearing Voices Network Conference - please can we field a speaker to place on the agenda our own perspectives?
To: Jacqui Dillon, Hearing Voices Network:
Dear Jaqui
We are in the process of forming a voice-hearers-friendly international Christian ministry with charitable status that is expressly accepting of the explanation that many voice-hearers offer for their hearing voices, so-called "targeted individuals", who claim that they are being assaulted by persons unknown who are armed with V2K weapons - Center for Army Lessons Learned . Some of our community are psychiatric survivors. None of those who are survivors report significant benefits from any anti-psychotic medication they perhaps used to take, or are still being coerced into taking in a number of cases.
Part of the Christian project involves opening tomorrow, a brand new high street charity shop in my home town Fleet, staffed at first exclusively by targeted individuals from all over the country, and raising funds (mainly by the sale of donated goods, and by the enlisting of regular support by bank standing order) for more than one cause, including both an orphanage in Uganda (the major beneficiary over the Christmas period), and work with targeted individuals who hear voices.
The shop premises will also be used for acts of Christian worship, at times when ordinary churches are closed, and for educating of targeted individuals who aren't necessarily Christians themselves about the spiritual help available from God through the Lord Jesus Christ, educating non-voice-hearing Christian believers about the plight of targeted indiviuals, and educating both groups about the bible prophecies that predicted the development of psychotronic weapons that happened in the 20th century.
The Flyer you sent me today listed some of the "confirmed speakers". It could turn out to be mighty useful for us to have some dialogue with other people in the Hearing Voices Network, voice-hearers outside our "targeted individual" community. I'm thinking therefore of hiring a minibus and making a block booking at your special conference, for some our people who would want to attend your conference provided such dialogue about our own issues were more-or-less assured. Are we welcome? If you'll invite me to be one of the conference speakers, so that the dialogue we all want about our agenda can be more effectively stimulated, I'll gladly put out feelers as to who from the UK targeted individual community wants to come along.
Yours sincerely,
John Allman
1 Cotwold Court, Albert Street, Fleet, Hants. GU51 3XZ
+44 7930 519793
www.thatfund.org
Christians Against Mental Slavery
The Alliance For Change - home page
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