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I want to stop taking my medications.

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spiritfriend

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I'm on Effexor, Latuda, and Seroquel.

Effexor and Latuda is for my anxiety and paranoia. Seroquel is for sleep. But seroquel isn't working well anymore, and the other two I'm not really sure about.

The problem is my emotions are being blocked by one of these medications, and I can't cry or feel excitement. I also have trouble sleeping, and I know that going off of seroquel will make insomnia worse.

I don't know what to do. I just want to feel emotions again and to be able to sleep. That's all.

Thank you.
 
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Dear Spiritfriend, I know just how you feel. It's like being trapped taking drugs. The only thing I can tell you is you can only stop one drug at a time. And you have to taper down VERY slowly. Dr. Peter Breggin says in his book to cut back 10% every three months. This is to avoid insomnia and withdrawal. Another thing you can do is to skip the Seroquel one day and when you go back to it, it may work better.

I resent having anything make me sleep yet in an emergency I will take an ativan. Ideally, one wishes to sleep naturally. Please don't quit any meds on a whim. It takes serious consideration.
 
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Dear Spiritfriend, I know just how you feel. It's like being trapped taking drugs. The only thing I can tell you is you can only stop one drug at a time. And you have to taper down VERY slowly. Dr. Peter Breggin says in his book to cut back 10% every three months. This is to avoid insomnia and withdrawal. Another thing you can do is to skip the Seroquel one day and when you go back to it, it may work better.

I resent having anything make me sleep yet in an emergency I will take an ativan. Ideally, one wishes to sleep naturally. Please don't quit any meds on a whim. It takes serious consideration.
Thank you.

Once I get health insurance over here, I'll make sure to ask if I can taper off of my meds. I hate depending on them so much because they stopped working and I just feel like I have zero emotions.
 
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I'm on Effexor, Latuda, and Seroquel.

Effexor and Latuda is for my anxiety and paranoia. Seroquel is for sleep. But seroquel isn't working well anymore, and the other two I'm not really sure about.

The problem is my emotions are being blocked by one of these medications, and I can't cry or feel excitement. I also have trouble sleeping, and I know that going off of seroquel will make insomnia worse.

I don't know what to do. I just want to feel emotions again and to be able to sleep. That's all.

Thank you.
Hi Spirit friend,

I think Poppy Doll has given some very good advice. We all want to be off meds, but to do it safely and successfully coming off medication should be done very gradually and with the support from your mental health team.

I've reduced my risperidone from 6mg daily to 1mg daily. The process has taken six months. I tried to come off them completely a month ago, but my sleep was terribly broken. I'm going to my doctors next week to ask them for some non addictive sleeping pills so I can take them for the first 4 days I come off medication, by which time hopefully my system will have made the necessary adjustments.

Do you exercise? I have to exercise a lot to ensure I am physically tired enough to sleep. I run 5 days a week outside for at least 30 minutes before I go to work and I swim, use the gym and do yoga in the evenings. It really helps.

If you are serious about giving up medication you need to have a good exercise and dietary plan in place to support your body and mind through the withdrawal process.

The good news is I've lost a stone in weight. But I still have around 10 lbs further to lose.

My best wishes
 
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Hi Spirit friend,

I think Poppy Doll has given some very good advice. We all want to be off meds, but to do it safely and successfully coming off medication should be done very gradually and with the support from your mental health team.

I've reduced my risperidone from 6mg daily to 1mg daily. The process has taken six months. I tried to come off them completely a month ago, but my sleep was terribly broken. I'm going to my doctors next week to ask them for some non addictive sleeping pills so I can take them for the first 4 days I come off medication, by which time hopefully my system will have made the necessary adjustments.

Do you exercise? I have to exercise a lot to ensure I am physically tired enough to sleep. I run 5 days a week outside for at least 30 minutes before I go to work and I swim, use the gym and do yoga in the evenings. It really helps.

If you are serious about giving up medication you need to have a good exercise and dietary plan in place to support your body and mind through the withdrawal process.

The good news is I've lost a stone in weight. But I still have around 10 lbs further to lose.

My best wishes
Thank you.

No I don't exercise. I guess I have to start doing that. I'm too lazy though.
 
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I think it is mostly about being active. If you can, buy a bicycle and ride around town. It will make you a little bit happier.

Even an electric bike is good, you still pedal and they are a heck of fun.
 
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spiritfriend

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I think it is mostly about being active. If you can, buy a bicycle and ride around town. It will make you a little bit happier.

Even an electric bike is good, you still pedal and they are a heck of fun.
Thank you. That sounds like a good idea. I'm just afraid of all the cars that drive here. I already have trouble walking around the place because I never pay attention.
 
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Yeah the cars are the main reason why I don't cycle more. I would not even mind the hilly roads if they were quiet.
 
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Thank you.

No I don't exercise. I guess I have to start doing that. I'm too lazy though.
Laziness, or apathy is part of the negative symptoms of schizophrenia and most other mental illnesses. Although I exercise a lot I really have to push myself self sometimes but the feeling of achievement is immense afterward.

Today for example, I went to the gym to run and workout with weights but I felt wretched and couldn't motivate myself to do it. I went to the coffee shop and had my favourite caffeine pick up, returned to the gym and tried again. I still couldn't do it. I returned to the gym for a third time today about 5pm. This time I ran for 45 mins and did 30 mins of weights.

I feel great now, but my point is that you have to push yourself. If you suffer with mental health difficulties exercise is one thing that you can do which makes a huge improvement to your mental health - its absolutely essential to do it and you should see it as just as important as taking your medication.

If you want to be well it's no good just taking the pills, you really have to graft for your wellness.

Give walking a go. It's a great safe form of exercise.

My best wishes
 
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i hear a lot about meds, in an ideal world they wouldn't be needed so much, but this is a less than ideal world, i find those people pushing therapy annoying they tend to be posh gits with the money and the money to avoid other exacerbating things
 
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Yeah sometimes meds are helpful. My substance abuse counselor told me the other day I might be able to come off meds but he doesn't know what I deal with. I hate it when other people tell me I can be completely cured if I just pray for it. Its the same with some of the therapy lot. Don't get me wrong therapy has helped me but I don't think I could ever come completely off of meds because my hallucinations are so severe.
 
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My friends always tell me to look forward to the time when I can quit taking meds, as that's a sign I'm "cured." The thought always makes me uncomfortable. This isn't something that just goes away.

If I can live something of a normal life with the help of some little pink and white pills, isn't that better than risking everything I've gained just to prove something to the world?
 
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recovery if you ask people what it is they'll mention the process coming off meds successfully maybe or getting a job maybem the process. they're a bit unclear about what it means as an end result, mental health workers it's all about closing cases and chucking you out to cope by yourself

if cure is been off drugs the mental hospitals are full of people who have come off drugs
 
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What about medical marijuana? Would this help my insomnia and anxiety? I hear so many good things from it. I don't know about the rules in Germany. Can I get it here? Is it expensive? I would look this information up myself, but I'm very lazy. Sorry.
 
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when i asked the gp he said be very cautious, depends on whether you consider a gps opinion important
 
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