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I think the Depression Dialogues website from in Ireland is well worth checking out: www.depressiondialogues.ie I've particularly loved reading some of the collection of inspiring poetry on the site at those times when... er I needed to read some inspiring poetry.
 
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It looks like a good site - bookmarked. I will have a good read sometime. :)

Thanks for the Link.
 
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From the home page of the site:

Depression is an emotion, just like fear, anger or love. It is the imprint felt after a stressful or traumatic experience. Depression is natural. It represents a legitimate response to life's difficulties. It is not a disease process reflecting a change in brain chemistry, disconnected from individuality, race, colour, creed, upbringing, belief systems, environments, relationships, socio-economic factors, life events and coping skills. To isolate a depressed, suffering human being from their thoughts, from their behaviours, and from the workings of their world is a tragedy beyond words, as it reduces them, and the rest of us, to a chemical soup encapsulated in skin. In this soup there is no place for uniqueness, imagination, will, acceptance, compassion, love, peace, creativity, personal freedom and the unfathomable depths of the human spirit.

The sick brain model of depression is a hideous and terrifying concept, as it turns us into cogs in a machine where, if we find the going difficult and want to disengage, we are prescribed an emotional painkiller and advised to carry on regardless. This is beyond Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. Chemically-induced slavery has arrived.

Depression Dialogues speaks to those experiencing depression. Its aim is to offer hope and understanding, and effective ways to create a new identity rooted in self-acceptance, empowerment and inner peace.

Michael Corry M.D.
Consultant Psychiatrist and Psychotherapist
Founder of Depression Dialogues
 
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Very good; I'd go as far as to say that you could swap the word depression for Schizophrenia (or any other MH label) in the above article.
 
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Wild Geese, by Mary Oliver

You do not have to be good.
you do not have to walk on your knees
for a hundred miles through the desert, repenting.
You only have to let the soft animal of your body
love what it loves.
Tell me about despair, yours, and I will tell you mine.
Meanwhile the world goes on.
Meanwhile the sun and the clear pebbles of the rain
are moving across the landscapes,
over the prairies and the deep trees,
the mountains and the rivers.
Meanwhile the wild geese, high in the clean blue air,
are heading home again.
Whoever you are, no matter how lonely,
the world offers itself to your imagination,
calls to you like the wild geese, harsh and exciting —
over and over announcing your place
in the family of things.
 
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Cheers, Apotheosis. I think this is going to turn into 'poem for the day'!

Poem below is also from the Depression Dialogues website: www.depressiondialogues.ie

I think Rumi is the most wonderful poet esp. if you like 'spiritual' without the bullshit. He was a 13th Century Persian Sufi mystic. Deep or what...


Some Kiss We Want

There is some kiss we want
with our whole lives, the touch

of spirit on the body. Seawater
begs the pearl to break its shell.

And the lily, how passionately
it needs some wild darling!

At night, I open the window and ask
the moon to come and press its
face against mine.

Breathe into me. Close
the language-door and open the love-window.
The moon won't use the door,
only the window.

Rumi
 
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Poem for the day!

...And now on Mad Radio, it's time for Poem for the Day!!

The poem below is also from the Depression Dialogues website: www.depressiondialogues.ie and also by Rumi, 13th Century Persian poet and Sufi mystic....


The Guest House

This being human is a guest house.
Every morning a new arrival.

A joy, a depression, a meanness,
some momentary awareness comes
as an unexpected visitor.

Welcome and entertain them all!
Even if they're a crowd of sorrows,
who violently sweep your house
empty of its furniture,
still, treat each guest honourably.
He may be clearing you out
for some new delight.

The dark thought, the shame, the malice,
meet them at the door laughing,
and invite them in.

Be grateful for whoever comes,
because each has been sent
as a guide from beyond.

Rumi
 
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Second poem for the day....

I feel another poem coming on - for the nightshift! and it is Valentine's.

Hafiz (or Hāfez) was a Persian poet of the 14th century. Apparently his collected works are to be found in the homes of most Iranians who use them as proverbs and sayings to this day.


How Did The Rose?

How
did the rose
ever open its heart
and give to this world all of its beauty?
It felt the encouragement of light against its being,
otherwise we all remain too
frightened.

Hafiz
 
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The Journey, Mary Oliver

The Journey

One day you finally knew
what you had to do, and began,
though the voices around you
kept shouting
their bad advice—
though the whole house
began to tremble
and you felt the old tug
at your ankles.
‘Mend my life!'
each voice cried.
But you didn't stop.
You knew what you had to do,
though the wind pried
with its stiff fingers
at the very foundations ,
though their melancholy
was terrible.
It was already late
enough, and a wild night,
and the road full of fallen
branches and stones.
But little by little,
as you left their voices behind,
the stars began to burn
through the sheets of clouds,
and there was a new voice
which you slowly
recognized as your own,
that kept you company
as you strode deeper and deeper
into the world,
determined to do
the only thing you could do—
determined to save
the only life you could save.

Mary Oliver
 
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From the home page of the site:

Depression is an emotion, just like fear, anger or love. It is the imprint felt after a stressful or traumatic experience. Depression is natural. It represents a legitimate response to life's difficulties. It is not a disease process reflecting a change in brain chemistry, disconnected from individuality, race, colour, creed, upbringing, belief systems, environments, relationships, socio-economic factors, life events and coping skills. To isolate a depressed, suffering human being from their thoughts, from their behaviours, and from the workings of their world is a tragedy beyond words, as it reduces them, and the rest of us, to a chemical soup encapsulated in skin. In this soup there is no place for uniqueness, imagination, will, acceptance, compassion, love, peace, creativity, personal freedom and the unfathomable depths of the human spirit.

The sick brain model of depression is a hideous and terrifying concept, as it turns us into cogs in a machine where, if we find the going difficult and want to disengage, we are prescribed an emotional painkiller and advised to carry on regardless. This is beyond Aldous Huxley's Brave New World. Chemically-induced slavery has arrived.

Depression Dialogues speaks to those experiencing depression. Its aim is to offer hope and understanding, and effective ways to create a new identity rooted in self-acceptance, empowerment and inner peace.

Michael Corry M.D.
Consultant Psychiatrist and Psychotherapist
Founder of Depression Dialogues
(IMO) I dont agree with this description of depression (from this site whots so ever). This is certainly not my experience of depression.JD/Frankie
 
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The Journey

One day you finally knew
what you had to do, and began,

...........

the only thing you could do—
determined to save
the only life you could save.

Mary Oliver
Lovely Poem OneDay; very true - thanks for sharing. :)
 
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Cheers, Apotheosis, glad you appreciated. JD/Frankie, yes, I respect that everyone wouldn't agree with that. I hope that doesn't distract from what people might find useful though, like...

The poems!...

The poem below is again from the Depression Dialogues website: www.depressiondialogues.ie

For The Raindrop

For the raindrop, joy is in entering the river—
Unbearable pain becomes its own cure.

Travel far enough into sorrow, tears turn into sighing;
In this way we learn how water can die into air.

When, after heavy rain, the stormclouds disperse,
Is it not that they've wept themselves clear to the end?

If you want to know the miracle, how wind can polish a mirror,
Look: the shining glass grows green in spring.

It's the rose's unfolding, Ghalib, that creates the desire to see
In every colour and circumstance, may the eyes be open for what
comes.

Ghalib
 
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Not at all oneday if people can enjoy and find solace in the words that is great,I'mall for finding things to help with depression, take care with best wishes regards JD/Frankie
 
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