How to tell the difference between intrusive thoughts and auditory hallucinations

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AquaGuy

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How to tell the difference between intrusive thoughts and auditory hallucinations

I’ve never been diagnosed with anything. I’m 23 and have shown signs of having psychotic episodes for over a decade, I deal with it extremely well however because I’m so high functioning. Anyway...

I’m pretty sure I’ve never heard voices, but a few years ago I remember having what I thought were intrusive thoughts, which I still occasionally get now (when not psychotic), sometimes in my own voice but sometimes in other people’s voices, like people I’m closest to, just saying random things. I can’t remember what they said, it wasn’t either good or bad, they were just random, non-sensical most of the time. Sometimes it would be a sentence or two, sometimes random words “red” “drawing” “funny” hair” “boring” “ugly” “paper” “Harry Potter” ...you get the idea, haha.
One thing I will say though, it had a specific location. It would be in the back, right corner of my mind, sometimes on the left, and sometimes back, centre, so very location specific, but always inside my head, never outside.
Also, since being very young (before going to high school, before 10 years old) I have heard my voice being called, in multiple different voices, in multiple different ways (whispers, shouting, etc), just randomly, out of the blue, and that is always external.

Besides my multiple paranoid delusions (extremely long story as it goes back more than a decade), I have also had a sense of being followed and watched by something almost all my life. No matter where I go or what I do, or who I’m with, I always feel something there, watching me. I don’t believe it to be malevolent like I did as a child, and believe it to be spiritual in nature (someone close to me died when I was a child and I don’t remember much before that so believe it to be them).

Thanks. Peace.

PS. I just posted another post related to this. I just didn’t want to write too much in one post and, besides, I see this as a slightly separate issue.
 
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I’ve never been diagnosed with anything. I’m 23 and have shown signs of having psychotic episodes for over a decade, I deal with it extremely well however because I’m so high functioning. Anyway...

I’m pretty sure I’ve never heard voices, but a few years ago I remember having what I thought were intrusive thoughts, which I still occasionally get now (when not psychotic), sometimes in my own voice but sometimes in other people’s voices, like people I’m closest to, just saying random things. I can’t remember what they said, it wasn’t either good or bad, they were just random, non-sensical most of the time. Sometimes it would be a sentence or two, sometimes random words “red” “drawing” “funny” hair” “boring” “ugly” “paper” “Harry Potter” ...you get the idea, haha.
One thing I will say though, it had a specific location. It would be in the back, right corner of my mind, sometimes on the left, and sometimes back, centre, so very location specific, but always inside my head, never outside.
Also, since being very young (before going to high school, before 10 years old) I have heard my voice being called, in multiple different voices, in multiple different ways (whispers, shouting, etc), just randomly, out of the blue, and that is always external.

Besides my multiple paranoid delusions (extremely long story as it goes back more than a decade), I have also had a sense of being followed and watched by something almost all my life. No matter where I go or what I do, or who I’m with, I always feel something there, watching me. I don’t believe it to be malevolent like I did as a child, and believe it to be spiritual in nature (someone close to me died when I was a child and I don’t remember much before that so believe it to be them).

Thanks. Peace.

PS. I just posted another post related to this. I just didn’t want to write too much in one post and, besides, I see this as a slightly separate issue.
Is there any specific reason why you've not sought out help?
 
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Is there any specific reason why you've not sought out help?
I don’t particularly trust psychologists, to be honest, because I love conspiracies and my favourite ones involve the government brainwashing us and psychologists are part of thst...That’s only a minor problem though and it’s not exactly a strong distrust and wouldn’t make me not go.
It’s mainly due to having social anxiety and social awkwardness and having to phone the GP to get a referral is something that makes me incredibly awkward, haha. And, of course, being an adult no one can really make an appointment for me in non-emergency situations.
 
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I have intrusive thoughts. I never thought of them as voices as they weren't persistent. I just had them from time to time and I believed they were a product of depression. ie thoughts I would usually have anyway but buried somehow and then rising to the surface at times of levity. Often sarcastic in nature though. Perhaps this is how I used to think, or is perfectly normal. I just became sensitive to them after a personally traumatic episode in my life.

They can seem like voices sometimes though in that they manifest themselves as an actual voice in my head, but not as relentless as schizophrenia ( I think). I accept they are my thoughts as well and belong to ME. However they can be overwhelming at times. It's like my brain wants to do alot more than I am willing or capable of doing.

Also thoughts can be in a different ( voice ) at times. I'm not too sure but I think I used to think in quite a female voice at times. I think this is when I was in business with my sister. Perhaps we adopt the voice in our heads of those we are closest too or the away others perceive us? Not sure but I know my mental voice has been different in the past.

Also in my psychosis even though at its worst the intrusive thoughts/voices were very irritating I was able to ignore them. Remember they are intrusive because the functioning part of YOU does not accept them. For instance the thought you are being followed is not useful to you. Logically you know it's probably not true but your intuition is telling you different.

What is it for instance that actually bothers you about being followed? Do you feel threatened by this unknown stalker? Is it a person you wish to make friends with. Perhaps if you understood the nature of the person you think is following you it could help you understand what your brain actually means. It could be insecurity. You may feel vulnerable somewhow? Nothing to be ashamed of btw. I believe my psychosis is partly due to unresolved emotion caused by depression caused by lifestyle. I've spent too much time alone I think.

I would say intrusive thoughts and voices are basically the same thing. I think schizophrenia is similar but with stronger and more persistent symptoms. I think both can be helped by improvement in diet and reduction in drugs/stimulants like coffee , sugar and junk food with all the additives. What if mental disorders were symptoms of food intolerances you could get but without physical symptoms? I believe this to be the case.