How can Community Treatment Orders still be justified?

BillFish

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All large inclusive policies are a blunt sword, be they Goverment of NHS.There are always winners and losers on the peripheral edges.Without doubt, there will people who need to be on cto's who actually should be locked up rather than in the community. On the other hand there will be many who don't warrant it, that have been placed on them just because the local establishment legally can, for convenience.
 
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I had a mate who was on a 117 CTO and he claimed blind that it was only there because they (The System) alledged that he enjoyed his 2 year Homelessness (Which to me he said he hated)

Anyway they kept giving him Clopixol injections which he loathed and could not tolerate.

In confidence he told me that he could no longer take the injections and was on the verge of taking Heroin.

This unfortunately did happen-He became a Heroin addict and the system lost all sympathy for him.

In the end he was reduced to mere Income support and a nervous wreck.

Tragically he took his own life in August 2002 at the tender age of 31.
 
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They were initially brought in because of the Zito campaigns. The intention being that they were to be reserved for the minority of psychiatric patients who were at risk of, or who had been, seriously violent during the course of their illness. However, now they are being given out left right and centre to anyone who has several admissions in a short space of time, or anyone who's pissed off their psychiatrist. Some people are left mentally and physically crippled by the drugs they are forced to take. It's not justified at all but there is a (false) belief embedded with psychiatry that they reduce hospital admissions - I guess because they just can't be bothered with some people. As if swanning round a ward and writing out some prescriptions/feigning empathy was so taxing. Poor doctors.
 
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An extract from the article - the cunning paradox of the CTO. You know, it's actually quite funny how pretty much every tool in the psychiatrists box - power to detain people against their will, kidnap, rape minds and force treatment is unchallengeable, precisely because if it were a viable option to challenge them, they wouldn't have any power to control people. God help us that we give anybody freedom over their own minds.

Tribunals also appear to suffer from the prejudice that things that are done to patients in the name of ‘treatment’ must be a good thing. CTOs are notoriously difficult to challenge. If people are mentally well, this can be attributed to the CTO and used to argue that it should continue, and since people can never prove that they would have remained well without the CTO, the CTO can be justified indefinitely. If, on the other hand, someone is not doing well, then it can be argued that they remain in need of compulsory treatment.
 
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MH "services" are pure evil and most people have no idea.
 
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An extract from the article - the cunning paradox of the CTO. You know, it's actually quite funny how pretty much every tool in the psychiatrists box - power to detain people against their will, kidnap, rape minds and force treatment is unchallengeable, precisely because if it were a viable option to challenge them, they wouldn't have any power to control people. God help us that we give anybody freedom over their own minds.
Its the paradox of "have you stopped beating your wife" question. Say yes and you are agreeing you did beat her, and say no and you are still saying that you are beating her. Its the oldest paradox question in legal terms. CTOs are all about money. Hospital admissions cost more and there are fewer beds, and alternative methods of treatment also cost more, so are not even tried. It all comes down to money IMO.
 
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I really like your way of expressing the opinion and sharing the information.