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reni

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Just wanted to say hello. I have discovered your site by browsing on the internet. I have been suffering with mental illness for many years and have times when I am up and down. It seems like the downs are becoming more than the ups.
I find it extremely lonely at times suffering with depression, because I feel so cut off from everybody even though people dont actually ignore me but it is that I feel like I dont belong.

I have personality disorder and find it very difficult to deal with relationships. I find I can be quite abusive to people and I can not stop myself from being like this. I would love to be able to cope with people but no matter how I try I always end up destroying friends that I make.

I have a son who lives quite close and my daughter is away but we try to see each other when we can.

I hope I can make friends on the site and try to build up friendships online because if I can do that at least maybe I can have some sort of contact with the outside world and if other people here suffer with mental illness then maybe you will understand how I feel.

Thank you and I hope I havent been too long and written too much.
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emotionalcripple

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Hi

Hi, I also have mental health problems, depression with psychotic features or so I am told. I also not that good at making friends (Well I can make them I just cant keep them) as I hide my illness as much as possible, if you ever need too chat you can mail me anytime.xx
 
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reni

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Hi, I also have mental health problems, depression with psychotic features or so I am told. I also not that good at making friends (Well I can make them I just cant keep them) as I hide my illness as much as possible, if you ever need too chat you can mail me anytime.xx
Thank you for your reply. I am the same, I can talk to people but when I get talking I somehow become aggressive in how I handle them. They dont like it and they walk away.
I am up early today because I have to go the the clinic.
 
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jamesdean

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hi reni i noticed u use the words mentall illness i, 2 have a mentall illness "clincal depression" with associated other symptons, is good that u found this forum i've been here since about the start of may n its the best place to get n give support b est wishes nice 2 meet u jd
 
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:welcome:I have been following all this with great interest. My 1st thought when i read Renni's posting, was that i knew her personally but under a different name.

We ( justlikeawoman and I) run a specialised house group for people with MH problems and we had a lady just like that, who was abusive to everybody she spoke to, Gave no care or thought what or how she said it and accused all other people of abusing her, if SHE did not get what SHE wanted, when SHE wanted it or how SHE wanted it, and in that event would unleash a torrent of abusive phone calls, one after another. On one occasion a total of 18 in evening before we could get her number blocked. WE could not help her. Unfortunately we also had another 3 people of a similar nature at the same time, one whom believed they were kidnapped by Martians for 5 years.

There are people in the church who try to help and understand, but they are not high profile in their activities, (mainly because the Chuch as a whole tends to demonise MH sufferers).

One is member of the Russian Orthodox Chuch, who helps and supports people under Home Office section, including murderers and has no walls or gate to keep people in and takes them shopping with his wife and children.

Another one is a community that takes in people to live in with them, works with them in a christian way, lets them work for the community they live in, in caring for the Gardens, cows, pigs, sheep, donkeys, ducks etc. Grow their own crops and flowers and have workshops fitted out for pottery, woodwork, art etc. They all live, sleep and work as a comunity until an individual is able to progress out and live comfortably in society and maintain a working career. They also have their own Church (which is non denominational).

But the important thing is, that people must want to change, and not expect God to wave a magic wand.

So my question is:- Do you want to change? Do you really want to change

I have said this so many times, people with MH problems also allowed to have a dream, and that dream must be more than"to be Normal", but it must be achieveable, Not wanting a 10 bedroom house, set in acres of its own garden and with a large swimming pool, whilst expecting to remain on benefits. The dream must be realistic.

Ralph :grouphug::tea:
 
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galwaygirl

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:welcome:I have been following all this with great interest. My 1st thought when i read Renni's posting, was that i knew her personally but under a different name.

We ( justlikeawoman and I) run a specialised house group for people with MH problems and we had a lady just like that, who was abusive to everybody she spoke to, Gave no care or thought what or how she said it and accused all other people of abusing her, if SHE did not get what SHE wanted, when SHE wanted it or how SHE wanted it, and in that event would unleash a torrent of abusive phone calls, one after another. On one occasion a total of 18 in evening before we could get her number blocked. WE could not help her. Unfortunately we also had another 3 people of a similar nature at the same time, one whom believed they were kidnapped by Martians for 5 years.

There are people in the church who try to help and understand, but they are not high profile in their activities, (mainly because the Chuch as a whole tends to demonise MH sufferers).

One is member of the Russian Orthodox Chuch, who helps and supports people under Home Office section, including murderers and has no walls or gate to keep people in and takes them shopping with his wife and children.

Another one is a community that takes in people to live in with them, works with them in a christian way, lets them work for the community they live in, in caring for the Gardens, cows, pigs, sheep, donkeys, ducks etc. Grow their own crops and flowers and have workshops fitted out for pottery, woodwork, art etc. They all live, sleep and work as a comunity until an individual is able to progress out and live comfortably in society and maintain a working career. They also have their own Church (which is non denominational).

But the important thing is, that people must want to change, and not expect God to wave a magic wand.

So my question is:- Do you want to change? Do you really want to change

I have said this so many times, people with MH problems also allowed to have a dream, and that dream must be more than"to be Normal", but it must be achieveable, Not wanting a 10 bedroom house, set in acres of its own garden and with a large swimming pool, whilst expecting to remain on benefits. The dream must be realistic.

Ralph :grouphug::tea:
This sounds really good. I live in a beautiful part of Southern Ireland. I have the sand and sea near to me. I have rolling hills in the back ground. It is an ideal setting for my life style, many people envy me but really if one hasnt got peace in their life it means nothing, it is all just nice stuff.
There are many retreat centres around and people available to listen to people's sad stories. Yes we are entitled to have a dream and dreams can come true if we want them too. I dont live on benefits but I do have the benefit of a swimming pool, it is called the Atlantic Ocean. I have a small house with my own art studio so I can appreciate all the free stuff that life offers.
But one of the worse things in life I believe, is MH problems.
Hope this person has a dream and I hope it does comes true.
 
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reni

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:welcome:I have been following all this with great interest. My 1st thought when i read Renni's posting, was that i knew her personally but under a different name.

We ( justlikeawoman and I) run a specialised house group for people with MH problems and we had a lady just like that, who was abusive to everybody she spoke to, Gave no care or thought what or how she said it and accused all other people of abusing her, if SHE did not get what SHE wanted, when SHE wanted it or how SHE wanted it, and in that event would unleash a torrent of abusive phone calls, one after another. On one occasion a total of 18 in evening before we could get her number blocked. WE could not help her. Unfortunately we also had another 3 people of a similar nature at the same time, one whom believed they were kidnapped by Martians for 5 years.

There are people in the church who try to help and understand, but they are not high profile in their activities, (mainly because the Chuch as a whole tends to demonise MH sufferers).

One is member of the Russian Orthodox Chuch, who helps and supports people under Home Office section, including murderers and has no walls or gate to keep people in and takes them shopping with his wife and children.

Another one is a community that takes in people to live in with them, works with them in a christian way, lets them work for the community they live in, in caring for the Gardens, cows, pigs, sheep, donkeys, ducks etc. Grow their own crops and flowers and have workshops fitted out for pottery, woodwork, art etc. They all live, sleep and work as a comunity until an individual is able to progress out and live comfortably in society and maintain a working career. They also have their own Church (which is non denominational).

But the important thing is, that people must want to change, and not expect God to wave a magic wand.

So my question is:- Do you want to change? Do you really want to change

I have said this so many times, people with MH problems also allowed to have a dream, and that dream must be more than"to be Normal", but it must be achieveable, Not wanting a 10 bedroom house, set in acres of its own garden and with a large swimming pool, whilst expecting to remain on benefits. The dream must be realistic.

I dont think I know you, because you thought you thought you knew me. I have been out all day walking around getting fresh air after all the rain.
I dont think I could live in a community like you described, because I wouldnt like to be shut in with strangers. If I got aggressive everybody would hate me. And I cant just give up my home
But thank you for what you said. I think anyone who didnt want to be cured of mental illness must be mad. Excuse the expression and no offence to others online.
Ralph :grouphug::tea:
I dont think I know you, because you thought you knew me. This morning I went to the clinic. It was no very productive.
I have been out all day walking around getting fresh air after all the rain.
I dont think I could live in a community like you described, because I wouldnt like to be shut in with strangers. If I got aggressive everybody would hate me. And I cant just give up my home
But thank you for what you said. I think anyone who didnt want to be cured of mental illness must be mad. Excuse the expression and no offence to others online. Anyway, you never know I might already have a 10 bedroom house with a swimming pool.
 
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Hi reni, no I dont know you as you used one word, clinic. the lady i know was given up on by the proffesionals a long time ago. The point I was trying to make, albeit badly, is that there sometimes is hope, but not necessarily where you expect it. But the starting point, must be a persons own decision to be determined to fight it, and not give in to the proffesionals determination to treat you only with drugs and ECT.etc. A person I know, kept on telling people of their deternination, and eventually after many weeks of talking to a Hospital chaplin, was pointed and helped along the path by that same chaplin.

That community are all sufferers and therefore have an understanding of members problems and are all willing to listen. And if they can say something of use to help, they will. It might take a long tme, maybe a year or more.

I repeat, the first step is a persons decision to fight it and to stick with that decision.

Good luck:)
 
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reni

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Hi reni, no I dont know you as you used one word, clinic. the lady i know was given up on by the proffesionals a long time ago. The point I was trying to make, albeit badly, is that there sometimes is hope, but not necessarily where you expect it. But the starting point, must be a persons own decision to be determined to fight it, and not give in to the proffesionals determination to treat you only with drugs and ECT.etc. A person I know, kept on telling people of their deternination, and eventually after many weeks of talking to a Hospital chaplin, was pointed and helped along the path by that same chaplin.

That community are all sufferers and therefore have an understanding of members problems and are all willing to listen. And if they can say something of use to help, they will. It might take a long tme, maybe a year or more.

I repeat, the first step is a persons decision to fight it and to stick with that decision.

Good luck:)
I was just about to sign out when your posting came in. Well I am not sure what you are saying, but I know that I have been fighting with determination for many years. It is like being in a black tunnel and sometimes you see the light, or a light but it never turns out to be day light. In fact I think my eyes have become accustomed to the darkness that even if the light of day dawned I wouldnt know it anymore.
So what did the chaplain do or say that made a difference to the person or people you were talking about?
I dont think I understand what you are saying! Sorry for being stupid but maybe others understand better than me.
I am going to go and make a cup of tea now.
Thanks for your reply.:confused:
 
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