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Hearing shouting, screaming, crying & constant whispering

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skyblue

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I think I must be completely insane. I didn't even know this forum was here and I've been struggling with voices almost constant with only very short breaks here and there for years. I've been so frightened of talking about it properly.
The main reason why is because they try and prevent me from telling people & seeking help. When I try and talk about them, they shout & scream so loud that I become so confused it's impossible to get any words out.

When I'm particularly nervous/anxious/under stress they shout so loud I lose my balance.

I need to leave this here for the moment, then try and continue a bit later. They're screaming too loud. :cry:
 
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Hey skyblue,

Have you tried to tell your voices that you are in charge and you don;t want to listen to them anymore?

KS
 
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Apotheosis

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Sorry to hear that you struggling Sky. (sorry for the long post)

There are ways of approaching & dealing with voices, & psychosis - But effective approaches need a lot of care, knowledge, time & proper help & support.

Rufus May is one practitioner that can help - & all MH practitioners should adopt his attitude. There are approaches developed by Carl Jung, John Weir Perry & Loren Mosher - Open Dialogue, & genuinely therapeutic & Healing places (Diabasis & Soteria House) - But the problem is that in the UK such approaches, understandings, help & support is denied to the vast majority of people, & such methods are denied, ignored, ridiculed & rejected; it's impossible for most people to access such approaches; & it doesn't exists in the NHS.

Given that fact of the incredible difficultly of accessing med free approaches - then largely there is only one choice left; to either try & go things alone & try to cope & manage as best that we can; or to try some kind of medication. I know that the tablets are crap - But in severe psychosis & severe MH difficulties; at the exclusion of any proper & comprehensive help - then maybe the tablets are best? It beats being in a state of unmanageable psychosis.

I do agree with finding a minimum therapeutic dose & using medications wisely if meds are used. I take a low dose of one med; & at this stage I have to accept the need to take it; & it does give me a certain degree of quality of life, & of being able to function. Of course I think that in the past I could have been far better helped, & that the MH system could provide far more help & far more effective models of healing & recovery. But that isn't how my life & the past has been! - I can't change the past; just as you can't. We have to work with how things are & with what help & resources that we have.

I remember you posting & sharing about the last time you were on the medication; you weren't having the voices, you felt well; but were concerned about side 'effects'. Many psychiatrists are aware of the side effects & the way that psychiatric drugs make people feel; & are not wanting to overly drug people.

You have deteriorated the longer the meds have been out of your system - it's always around the 3 month mark after stopping meds that if things do get bad then they will do.

I'd strongly suggest making contact with your MH team; laying your cards on the table & working with them. No help is worse than the help that is available; even if you have criticisms of that help. Please see sense. When your more stable; you can always thoroughly look into many alternative, holistic & other approaches as to how to best deal with mental confusion, distress & voices. But you really do need help.

It's your choice - But I would very strongly advise medical assistance.

You have done well, you have tired to go it alone with things - I have tried all that too in the past. It didn't work for me; I tried everything I could, & have had to accept that given how things were & are; I have to currently accept taking meds; to get the best quality of life currently available. Please think seriously about this. I know how vulnerable people are in these states.

I'm not advocating or justifying psychiatry & the MH system, or it's methods, & I stand by the stuff I have posted on genuine recovery & healing. I am simply talking from experience - Like you Sky; I have suffered with a very severe end of the MH spectrum; with multiple & devastating psychotic experiences - of severely altered states. Sure - I would have loved a healing, therapeutic, clam & safe place to go mad in & to work everything through in; to psychologically process what I was experiencing & to come out the other side - But that's not the reality of the society & country that we live in; it's not the reality of psychiatry & the MH system; & as hard as that is to accept; it needs to be accepted.

Please
talk to someone now & get some help. XXX
 
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skyblue

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Hey skyblue,

Have you tried to tell your voices that you are in charge and you don;t want to listen to them anymore?

KS
KS - I feel really embarrassed about mentioning this.

Erm,.. the answer is yes - Once. It was the last time I was hospitalised back in Sept. I needed to be put in a quiet room. I have never, ever felt so much rage in my entire life. The voices overtook me in such a way, I felt completely out of control.
This is not usually in my nature; but I was shouting, swearing (at the top of my voice) and shaking with rage at them.

Did it work ? I don't know because I needed to take something to calm me.

I don't know how to take charge in an appropriate way,.. do you know ? I'm so frightened of losing control like I did back then. Thank god I was in hospital and put in a quiet room.

But I did find that writing things down here today helped me. You replied to another post of mine.

I just wanted to thank you for encouraging me to talk here, thanks so much. xx
 
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skyblue

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Apo - You're a star. Thank you so much for spending this time to write to me. Please
bear with me, I will reply to your message. xx
 
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Apotheosis

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Apo - You're a star. Thank you so much for spending this time to write to me. Please
bear with me, I will reply to your message. xx
It's OK Sky - Just reply whenever - no pressure.

I found the following very helpful to me recently; I meant to post this ages ago -

From the book 'One in a Hundred' by Aiden Shingler -

"Neuroleptic drugs [also known as anti-psychotics or major-tranquillisers] are powerful & complex substances. There is a vast amount yet to be understood about the intricate interplay & specific interactions of these drugs on the neurological system. I feel, however, that they can fulfil a valuable role in assisting individuals in their quest for balance, but only if there is a balance of interests between those prescribing & those receiving.

It is lamentable that the means & methods by which these drugs are systematically imposed by clinicians gives rise to a profound conflict of interests.

Neuroleptics have the capacity to act upon the human psyche via the realm of alchemy rather than pharmacy.

My understanding is that schizophrenia is a psychic experience that manifests itself as spiritual conflict. The openness & susceptibility to the effects of paranormal stimuli by those undergoing Psyche-sensitivity can be overwhelming: a dam burst causing a flash flood of psychic activity that fills the planes of the mind.

If neuroleptics are administered sensitively, then rather than suffocating psychic activity through chemical saturation, these compounds can function as a filter, & posses the potential to limit the frequency & intensity of paranormal occurrences by reducing the psychic aperture, thus enabling psychic activity to be channelled & assimilated. Used minimally, these drugs can improve the life of the individual rather than impoverish it. All too often major tranquillisers are administered as an overdose that nullifies the neurological system rendering the recipient brain-dead.

The expression less is more springs to mind. Anti-psychic drugs need not be a bitter pill to swallow."
 
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Ive tryed to tell the voices Im hearing to stop and they get excited about me in pain, I guess. It gets easier to type and talk the longer you do it and ignoring them the best you can helps also.
 
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Hi,

Voices are the worst experience...I have heard them since I was eight years old but did not know what was happening so i told nobody. Over the last three years they have set out on a mission to kill me and almost succeeded....but now I have turned the tables on them and tell them whatever they tell me....I take a fighting stance. They also told me to not tell people that they are there but I tell people anyway....not everybody...but definitely the mental health professionals that work with me.

Just about a week ago they tried to take over my mind and I wrote them the nastiest response to what they were saying...I felt better and they stopped doing what they were doing. If you stay in the passive mode...they will press and try to destroy you...I learned that I had to treat them like bullies and try to find ways to overpower them ...whenever I play passive I feel sick with the voices...when I fight them...I get some or all of my power back.
 
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I have a weeping woman who seriously depresses me. Her constant weeping makes me feel like a total failure in life. Like she is crying at the total disaster I made out of life! :E
 
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skyblue

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I have a weeping woman who seriously depresses me. Her constant weeping makes me feel like a total failure in life. Like she is crying at the total disaster I made out of life! :E
Hello Burntfruit,

Yes I can understand this. The crying I hear is as though the voice (can't make out whether a man/lady) is weeping at the disaster of a person I am & situation I am in at the time - At this point I'm usually at crisis point and am seeking help. Sometimes it sounds like the voice is genuinely crying, but then it turns out that they're bullying.

Extremely distressing.
 
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Hello Burntfruit,

Yes I can understand this. The crying I hear is as though the voice (can't make out whether a man/lady) is weeping at the disaster of a person I am & situation I am in at the time - At this point I'm usually at crisis point and am seeking help. Sometimes it sounds like the voice is genuinely crying, but then it turns out that they're bullying.

Extremely distressing.
Yes thats right.
 
bert tomato

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Mind you - it could be just a howling wind in the distance. Sounded like that this morning.
 
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There is also a male voice - who sounds like one of my 'friends'. He is obnoxious as hell!
 
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skyblue

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There is also a male voice - who sounds like one of my 'friends'. He is obnoxious as hell!
I have a male voice who is obnoxious as hell - Like you, he is somebody I know who is obnoxious as hell :) Needless to say, we don't get on.
 
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